Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Dany » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:58 pm

Updated for Fall 2011 applicants and the new LSAC applications. Please let me know if there are any issues or other steps I should include, and best of luck to those applying this cycle.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby acrossthelake » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:57 pm

Re-stickied because I'm tired of people not finding this link through the FAQ or Useful Links thread.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby soj » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:42 pm

Awesome!

Of course, being stickied means now no one will read it.

But we'll still link to it and chide n00bs for not reading it. :D

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby boalthopeful » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:10 pm

Sorry, but what's CRS?

*catching up*

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Dany » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:21 pm

boalthopeful wrote:Sorry, but what's CRS?

*catching up*

LSAC wrote:The Candidate Referral Service (CRS) is a free service that makes information about law school candidates available to law schools. Law schools may recruit potential applicants on the basis of specific characteristics; for example, LSAT score, undergraduate grade-point average (UGPA), age, citizenship, race or ethnicity, and geographic background. If you establish an LSAC.org account for any purpose, you may authorize release of your credentials to law schools participating in the CRS. LSAC recommends that you authorize release. CRS is an opportunity to be found by law schools you might not otherwise have considered.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Sh@keNb@ke » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:46 am

Hidden waivers from the following schools:

UPenn
Cornell
UChicago
NYU

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby tonton » Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:48 pm

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby naw » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:44 am

So far, hidden waivers from:
Michigan
Lewis & Clark

Damn, I wish I knew this before submitting all my other apps.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby MormonChristian » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:46 am

Catholic University does hidden fee waivers. If you don't get into Georgetown or GW, and you have to stay in DC, why not try Catholic?

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby warplan » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:29 am

I think it is not applicable to international applicant.... :cry:
I can't see that message.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby denvieboco » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:01 am

I received hidden fee waivers from UVA, Michigan, Penn, Duke, NYU.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby CPAn00b » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:18 pm

What's a hidden fee waiver? I'm a noob.

Also, the LSAC site pretty much does not give any details about fee waivers except that it is in given in cases of REAL NEED. What's real need? Not being able to eat? I guess if you have a job making 50k this disqualifies you, even though you barley save any money after expenses.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Dany » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:20 pm

CPAn00b wrote:What's a hidden fee waiver? I'm a noob.

Also, the LSAC site pretty much does not give any details about fee waivers except that it is in given in cases of REAL NEED. What's real need? Not being able to eat? I guess if you have a job making 50k this disqualifies you, even though you barley save any money after expenses.

A waiver that the school doesn't notify you of - you just find it when you submit an application on LSAC.

This has nothing to do with LSAC need-based waivers.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby CPAn00b » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:26 pm

Dany wrote:
CPAn00b wrote:What's a hidden fee waiver? I'm a noob.

Also, the LSAC site pretty much does not give any details about fee waivers except that it is in given in cases of REAL NEED. What's real need? Not being able to eat? I guess if you have a job making 50k this disqualifies you, even though you barley save any money after expenses.

A waiver that the school doesn't notify you of - you just find it when you submit an application on LSAC.

This has nothing to do with LSAC need-based waivers.


Ok, so if this has nothing to do with LSAC need-based waivers, what is the basis for these waivers. In other words, how do these schools distribute these hidden waivers? Is it based on need or some other factor? If need, how is that determined? Since you said it has nothing to do with LSAC need-based waivers, I'm assuming not qualifying for one of those does not preclude one from getting a hidden application waiver at these schools?

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Dany » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:40 pm

They're "merit" waivers.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby lynch » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:02 am

Thanks for your post this is very helpful!

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby mewalke1 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:33 am

good stuff thanks

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby lynch » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:13 am

Thanks for sharing this!

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Postby enidwexler » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:48 am

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby timfa » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:17 pm

I took the June LSAT in 2011 and 2012 and scored 170 and 174 respectively. I haven't received a single email from any school regarding a fee waiver. Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby amycompton » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:20 am

This is great. Anyone have a sense as to how long it'll take for these to show up post-November LSAT? I had like to save money, but I don't want to wait for weeks for them to come in.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Ozymandias » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:43 pm

amycompton wrote:This is great. Anyone have a sense as to how long it'll take for these to show up post-November LSAT? I had like to save money, but I don't want to wait for weeks for them to come in.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby cannibal ox » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:20 pm

Is it necessary to go all the way through an application to find out if you have a hidden waiver, or does the box showing fees before you start the application tip you off?

Example: I have an unsolicited fee waiver to W&L, and no fee waiver to Michigan. These are the screens before I start each application:

W&L: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/inferno___/app_no_fee.png
Notice the $0 application fee

Michigan: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/inferno___/app_fee.png
Notice the $75 application fee

So my question is, if I theoretically had a hidden waiver from Michigan, would that $75 fee be listed as $0, saving me the trouble of going through an entire application just to find out if I have a hidden waiver?

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby TheMostDangerousLG » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:14 pm

cannibal ox wrote:Is it necessary to go all the way through an application to find out if you have a hidden waiver, or does the box showing fees before you start the application tip you off?

Example: I have an unsolicited fee waiver to W&L, and no fee waiver to Michigan. These are the screens before I start each application:

W&L: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/inferno___/app_no_fee.png
Notice the $0 application fee

Michigan: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/inferno___/app_fee.png
Notice the $75 application fee

So my question is, if I theoretically had a hidden waiver from Michigan, would that $75 fee be listed as $0, saving me the trouble of going through an entire application just to find out if I have a hidden waiver?


No, it would not. Hence the "hidden" part.

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Re: Do I Have a Hidden Waiver?! A Pictorial Guide - Fall 2011

Postby Typhoon24 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:18 pm

cannibal ox wrote:Is it necessary to go all the way through an application to find out if you have a hidden waiver, or does the box showing fees before you start the application tip you off?

Example: I have an unsolicited fee waiver to W&L, and no fee waiver to Michigan. These are the screens before I start each application:

W&L: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/inferno___/app_no_fee.png
Notice the $0 application fee

Michigan: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/inferno___/app_fee.png
Notice the $75 application fee

So my question is, if I theoretically had a hidden waiver from Michigan, would that $75 fee be listed as $0, saving me the trouble of going through an entire application just to find out if I have a hidden waiver?


I'm not so sure if it was a fee waiver that they offered us, I think w and l is just not charging for apps this year like UCI and WashU.




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