Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby YSS » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:17 pm

Marionberry wrote:Struck a nerve, knock? lol

But yeah, this post makes no sense. You want an objective standard for lumping Harvard, Stanford, and Yale together? How about exclusivity?


in what sense

anyone who can get into Harvard or Yale can get into Stanford.

their median LSAT isn't even close to Harvard and Yale PLUS both have higher or similair GPA's

The only thing Stanford has going for it is that its got no competition in the west coast. If a school like Columbia or Chicago was on the west coast then Stanford would no longer be viewed in the same class as Harvard or Yale.

Simply put the quality of its students and professors is NOT up to par with Harvard or Yale.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:27 pm

YSS wrote:
Marionberry wrote:Struck a nerve, knock? lol

But yeah, this post makes no sense. You want an objective standard for lumping Harvard, Stanford, and Yale together? How about exclusivity?


in what sense

anyone who can get into Harvard or Yale can get into Stanford.

their median LSAT isn't even close to Harvard and Yale PLUS both have higher or similair GPA's

The only thing Stanford has going for it is that its got no competition in the west coast. If a school like Columbia or Chicago was on the west coast then Stanford would no longer be viewed in the same class as Harvard or Yale.

Simply put the quality of its students and professors is NOT up to par with Harvard or Yale.


Stanford rejects a good amount of people accepted to Harvard. With Harvard all you need is the numbers; Stanford's small class allows them to be pickier though.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby beachbum » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:30 pm

And here we go again.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby whymeohgodno » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:15 am

Troll

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby PDaddy » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:31 am

YSS wrote:
Marionberry wrote:Struck a nerve, knock? lol

But yeah, this post makes no sense. You want an objective standard for lumping Harvard, Stanford, and Yale together? How about exclusivity?


in what sense

anyone who can get into Harvard or Yale can get into Stanford.

their median LSAT isn't even close to Harvard and Yale PLUS both have higher or similair GPA's

The only thing Stanford has going for it is that its got no competition in the west coast. If a school like Columbia or Chicago was on the west coast then Stanford would no longer be viewed in the same class as Harvard or Yale.

Simply put the quality of its students and professors is NOT up to par with "THAT OF STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS FROM" Harvard or Yale.


Really? And what empirical evidence tells you these things?

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby moopness » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:11 am

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:14 am

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby Knock » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:16 am

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Well done.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby YSS » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:57 pm

PDaddy wrote:
YSS wrote:
Marionberry wrote:Struck a nerve, knock? lol

But yeah, this post makes no sense. You want an objective standard for lumping Harvard, Stanford, and Yale together? How about exclusivity?


in what sense

anyone who can get into Harvard or Yale can get into Stanford.

their median LSAT isn't even close to Harvard and Yale PLUS both have higher or similair GPA's

The only thing Stanford has going for it is that its got no competition in the west coast. If a school like Columbia or Chicago was on the west coast then Stanford would no longer be viewed in the same class as Harvard or Yale.

Simply put the quality of its students and professors is NOT up to par with "THAT OF STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS FROM" Harvard or Yale.


Really? And what empirical evidence tells you these things?


Student Quality #6
http://www.leiterrankings.com/students/ ... ools.shtml

Professor Quality #4
http://www.leiterrankings.com/new/2010_ ... pact.shtml

As you can see EMPIRICAL evidence shows Stanford is not even close to Harvard or Yale

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby 2ofspades » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:07 am

moopness wrote:Image

A reminder.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby Kswizzie » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:44 am

Knockglock wrote:
beachbum wrote:
Richie Tenenbaum wrote:How is this post being jumped all over on? Is OP just a huge douche in other threads? I have people argue that it should really be SCCN before and I've had people argue that it should be MVPN before. Does combining the arguments make it just craaaazy?


Not really, the OP just sucks so we've stopped paying attention to what he has to say.


Actually, I wish S went down a tier, so it would be easier to get into :P.


Berkeley?

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby d34d9823 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:37 am

Kswizzie wrote:
Knockglock wrote:Actually, I wish S went down a tier, so it would be easier to get into :P.


Berkeley?

No, knock just has an irrational crush on Stanford.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby acrossthelake » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:39 am

d34dluk3 wrote:
Kswizzie wrote:
Knockglock wrote:Actually, I wish S went down a tier, so it would be easier to get into :P.


Berkeley?

No, knock just has anirrational crush on obsessional love for Stanford.


ftfy

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby Knock » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:50 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
d34dluk3 wrote:
Kswizzie wrote:
Knockglock wrote:Actually, I wish S went down a tier, so it would be easier to get into :P.


Berkeley?

No, knock just has anirrational crush on obsessional love for Stanford.


ftfy


Credited.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby nphsbuckeye » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:06 am

Renzo wrote:WTF does a state school in the Midwest have in common with any of those other schools?

They're all bad at football.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby s0ph1e2007 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:28 am

Doritos wrote:HYSCCV

HYSCCMV

I just think MV are together

so it could be
HYSCC
or it has to be

HYSCCMV

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby sundance95 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:29 am

nphsbuckeye wrote:
Renzo wrote:WTF does a state school in the Midwest have in common with any of those other schools?

They're all bad at football.


I lol'd

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby 2ofspades » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:33 am

Renzo wrote:
2ofspades wrote:
Renzo wrote:WTF does a state school in the Midwest South have in common with any of those other schools?

Thomas Jefferson built that state school with his bare hands. Don't you love America? Are you some kind of Commie who doesn't appreciate the schools your founding fathers left for you?

You're right. I don't know what I was thinking. I should be ashamed of myself.

*kicks self*

As penance I will post in the Harvard page that UVA was started by a founding father rather than a plain ol' clergyman. Surely they will all withdraw immediately and beg Dean Trujillo to let them in.

nphsbuckeye wrote:
Renzo wrote:WTF does a state school in the Midwest have in common with any of those other schools?

They're all bad at football.

I can't help but notice your username.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby 20160810 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:50 am

lol at the "Other than NYC biglaw what does NYU have going for it?" argument. You do realize that NYC biglaw is biglaw, right? Something like 80 of the V100 firms are HQed there. Placing better in NYC means placing better, period.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:18 am

SBL wrote:lol at the "Other than NYC biglaw what does NYU have going for it?" argument. You do realize that NYC biglaw is biglaw, right? Something like 80 of the V100 firms are HQed there. Placing better in NYC means placing better, period.


It's a troll SBL. Was my IBTL just totally off? :(

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby 20160810 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:20 am

acrossthelake wrote:
SBL wrote:lol at the "Other than NYC biglaw what does NYU have going for it?" argument. You do realize that NYC biglaw is biglaw, right? Something like 80 of the V100 firms are HQed there. Placing better in NYC means placing better, period.


It's a troll SBL. Was my IBTL just totally off? :(

If I locked every thread that made a terrible argument about law school rankings, I'd lock TLS.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:21 am

SBL wrote:
acrossthelake wrote:
SBL wrote:lol at the "Other than NYC biglaw what does NYU have going for it?" argument. You do realize that NYC biglaw is biglaw, right? Something like 80 of the V100 firms are HQed there. Placing better in NYC means placing better, period.


It's a troll SBL. Was my IBTL just totally off? :(

If I locked every thread that made a terrible argument about law school rankings, I'd lock TLS.


I see. I will have to use my IBTL more judiciously then.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby Unemployed » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:33 am

Nightrunner wrote:$50 says OP goes to one of the Cs, and is sick of looking up at Stanford and/or having people compare his/her school to NYU.


I raise you $50 - OP (and maybe a few other recently crated accounts who troll on this issue) are all Kurama incarnates.

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Re: Grouping HYS and CCN together makes no sense

Postby BruceWayne » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:21 am

SBL wrote:lol at the "Other than NYC biglaw what does NYU have going for it?" argument. You do realize that NYC biglaw is biglaw, right? Something like 80 of the V100 firms are HQed there. Placing better in NYC means placing better, period.


LOL clearly, since no one wants to work anywhere but NYC and only in "top Vault firms". The main problem is that it does the same or worse than several other top 14 schools in other markets, and the one market where it does out place those schools is the easiest market to get to, even from those other schools. It's not like Columbia where it decimates the top 14 schools below it in NYC, while beating them in other markets. NYU actually loses out to a number of schools in other markets (like UVA in DC and the South, Columbia/Berkeley/Chicago in California, NU/Michigan/Chicago in Chicago etc. and it fails to outplace schools below it in clerkships as well). Furthermore, it's not like people just say "go to NYU over the other non HYS CC top 14 schools if you want to work in NYC" they say "got to NYU over any school but HYS CC and you be looked at more favorably in any market". If it was the former you couldn't argue against it.




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