honesty in extracurriculars

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honesty in extracurriculars

Postby paulshortys10 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:35 am

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby bofaem » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:34 pm

if you can lie about, it probably won't help that much with your application--i suspect it would be tougher to lie about a fulbright scholarship, some cure you discovered, or a book you wrote

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby katjust » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:40 pm

For the record, I never lied on my application.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby theantiscalia » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:41 pm

Do not lie. In three years, you'll have to go through the Character and Fitness process, which is very thorough. (I have been filling out the forms because in my state you have to register early.) If they find out you lied on your law school application (which they will actually pull), then you'll have a character and fitness issue and may not be able to sit for the Bar.

It would really suck to get a law degree and then not be able to practice.

There is little reward to what you're going to do, but there is an immense risk.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby capitalacq » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:45 am

lol @ C&F verifying extracurrics

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby Emma. » Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:55 am

capitalacq wrote:lol @ C&F verifying extracurrics


True, but this is a really bad idea for C&F:

paulshortys10 wrote:I know people that put a lot of fake work experience and got letters from people they never even met before.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby capitalacq » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:01 pm

boo jersey shore wrote:
capitalacq wrote:lol @ C&F verifying extracurrics

But why lie about it? It isn't like extracurricular activities make a damn bit of difference on an app, so what's the point?

oh i definitely wouldn't lie about it, but I think it's just a joke when someone tries to use C&F scare tactics to answer the question
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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:05 pm

Obviously you have never dealt with political matters or politicians.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby vespertiliovir » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:15 pm

Why would you lie? No one cares about your extracurriculars anyway.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby Barbie » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:32 pm

I've heard of people expanding on things-- saying they did something for longer or something-- but never just lie about it. I doubt an extracurricular will make or break your application, so just be honest. It won't really matter...

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:45 pm

paulshortys10 wrote:I haven't really done much out of my classes in terms of clubs, interning, work, research,volunteering....I have 1 letter secured barely too.....I'm currently looking for stuff to do to add to my app, but in the case I don't add much.. how many oh u have lied on ur app? I know people that put a lot of fake work experience and got letters from people they never even met before.


If you didn't bother to do much outside of your classes, then that's your reality to report. Don't lie. That's unnecessary and immoral. Do you even have numbers that put you at schools where it would make a difference?

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:10 pm

boo jersey shore: Many wish that you were right. Your post is reflective of one without much real world experience despite your presence at NU.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby capitalacq » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:12 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:boo jersey shore: Many wish that you were right. Your post is reflective of one without much real world experience despite your presence at NU.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby bigmnstyle » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:14 pm

Def. lie :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted:

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:16 pm

capitalacq: That is beyond low class. You simply have little or no real world experience, certainly not in political matters, political research or politicians where almost anything submitted in writing will be discovered & checked out. Resorting to name-calling is probably the best you can do, however.
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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby thecilent » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:22 pm

capitalacq wrote:lol @ C&F verifying extracurrics

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby capitalacq » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:25 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:capitalacq: That is beyond low class. You simply have little or no real world experience, certainly not in political matters, political research or politicians where almost anything submitted in writing will be discovered & checked out. Resorting to name-callinhttp://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&f=2&p=3299355#g is probably the best you can do, however.
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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby capitalacq » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:27 pm

Nightrunner wrote:Before the shitstorm: I think Boo and CanadianWolf are actually making the same argument -- "this is a stupid fucking thing to lie about." The only difference is Boo is asking why someone would lie about something so useless, while CW is noting that plenty of ambitious assholes have, indeed, lied about something so useless.

I think the difference is that boo knows how to make a point ;)

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:39 pm

Thanks for the attempt NightRunner. My point, in addition to what you have already noted, is that in the real world background checks for security clearances or political matters will research every aspect of one's background & that anything untruthful that is in a signed writing will be discovered.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:00 pm

I had two cases over 10 years ago that involved these areas. Both were settled without public action.
I am not willing to share any more info. since this thread is better left as is.
However, if you are really interested, then you should speak with former bar counsels who now do private practice representation before state bars. They usually can be found in the advertising section of the monthly bar association publications. I think that you'll get the education that you seek.
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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:07 pm

I've given you a resource direction. If you are interested, then pursue those sources.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:15 pm

Yes, you're correct. I think that you have clearly established the type of person that you are. I apologize as I based my obviously premature assessment on your writings in this thread.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:31 pm

P.S. "Bub" says "hey". If I run into JC I'll let him know that you're thinking of him.
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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:33 pm

Jesus won't like that.

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Re: honesty in extracurriculars

Postby CanadianWolf » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:34 pm

See, you were incorrect. You're smarter & you win!




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