Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby romothesavior » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:32 am

NYAssociate wrote:At work so can't do detail explanation. Roughy, nlj250 isn't biglaw. Fails to account for nyu's placement into clerkships (crappy as it may be, still better than penns) and public interest. There's more, but am at work. Also, no biglaw hiring partner will dig as deeply into Penn as into nyu. Penn and nyu are widely regarded as being in diff tiers. None of this is contro.


Very true, and I think (or hope) most people would recognize that. I mean, no one here would say NW is better than Yale with a straight face, and the reasons you gave are exactly why. But NLJ is still very useful for gleaning information about schools' placement.

Someone (I believe Nightrunner?) made a chart comparing clerkship + biglaw statistics. That was really helpful.

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby NYAssociate » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:38 am

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby kalvano » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:41 am

NYAssociate wrote:no biglaw hiring partner will put nyu and Penn on the same terms.



Never thought they would.

I was just throwing it out that, strictly speaking, in the largest firms, Penn places a higher percentage of students.

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby zanda » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:55 am

romothesavior wrote:
zanda wrote:I would argue self-selection fail. More importantly, glad we all agree OP is a flame.


Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the NLJ numbers are reported by firm, not school or individual.

If you want to argue the numbers are inaccurate because they are quasi-pre ITE, then okay. But I don't see how they aren't useful for school-to-school comparisons.

Sorry for being unclear. I meant that the less than 1% difference is possibly the result of more NYU students choosing public interest careers.

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby Veyron » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:14 pm

NYAssociate wrote:Rough idea sure. But again, no biglaw hiring partner will put nyu and Penn on the same terms. Not even the old school ones who still believe Michigan is 3 in usnwr.


You need to tm to some partners outside of NYC dood.

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby NYAssociate » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:45 pm

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby Veyron » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:16 pm

NYAssociate wrote:
Veyron wrote:
NYAssociate wrote:Rough idea sure. But again, no biglaw hiring partner will put nyu and Penn on the same terms. Not even the old school ones who still believe Michigan is 3 in usnwr.


You need to tm to some partners outside of NYC dood.


I have and do.


Guess we are talking to different hiring partners then.

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Re: Only accepted at t7+, is law school worth it?

Postby MTal » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:24 pm

The OP and his detractors equally deserve each other.




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