Applying with an Impaired Driving

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Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby buccanic » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:08 pm

I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Boilernation11 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:38 pm

buccanic wrote:I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


I have not been in that situation, however, i would assume the chances of you getting into a T1 school are very low with that on your record. If law school is what you really want to do, you will be able to get in somewhere but you have to lower the bar a little bit. Maybe a lot. Also, I wouldnt write about it in my personal statement. Your PS gives you the chance to showcase yourself in a positive light, talking about your DUI is only telling them something they already know. Good Luck!

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby shock259 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:51 pm

^^ That's just not true. Acknowledge it, write an addendum, and don't worry about it. Focus on your LSAT. That'll be the deciding factor.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby kalvano » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:09 am

Schools won't care that much. GPA / LSAT is what matters to them.

The poin of disclosure is C&F for the bar later on.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:19 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:
buccanic wrote:I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


I have not been in that situation, however, i would assume the chances of you getting into a T1 school are very low with that on your record. If law school is what you really want to do, you will be able to get in somewhere but you have to lower the bar a little bit. Maybe a lot. Also, I wouldnt write about it in my personal statement. Your PS gives you the chance to showcase yourself in a positive light, talking about your DUI is only telling them something they already know. Good Luck!


Not true. Dude, every thread you have given advice in...it has been terrible advice. Maybe take a few weeks off and just read the forums before you answer?

OP, it's not great but schools don't care all that much, especially if there was some time between the charge and LS. Lots of people have attended T14 schools with DUIs, etc. Make sure you disclose, and study your ass off for the LSAT....and keep your GPA up since you haven't graduated yet. Maybe take some cake courses.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Boilernation11 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:34 pm

blowhard wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:
buccanic wrote:I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


I have not been in that situation, however, i would assume the chances of you getting into a T1 school are very low with that on your record. If law school is what you really want to do, you will be able to get in somewhere but you have to lower the bar a little bit. Maybe a lot. Also, I wouldnt write about it in my personal statement. Your PS gives you the chance to showcase yourself in a positive light, talking about your DUI is only telling them something they already know. Good Luck!


Not true. Dude, every thread you have given advice in...it has been terrible advice. Maybe take a few weeks off and just read the forums before you answer?

OP, it's not great but schools don't care all that much, especially if there was some time between the charge and LS. Lots of people have attended T14 schools with DUIs, etc. Make sure you disclose, and study your ass off for the LSAT....and keep your GPA up since you haven't graduated yet. Maybe take some cake courses.


maybe you should get a life and not spend all day on here! Lots of people goto T14 schools with DUIs on their record?? REALLY????? Im sure when given the choice of qualified apps with DUIS or without, T14 schools pick the ones with the DUIs... because thats what i would do! FYI thats sarcasm.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby thecilent » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:36 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:
blowhard wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:
buccanic wrote:I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


I have not been in that situation, however, i would assume the chances of you getting into a T1 school are very low with that on your record. If law school is what you really want to do, you will be able to get in somewhere but you have to lower the bar a little bit. Maybe a lot. Also, I wouldnt write about it in my personal statement. Your PS gives you the chance to showcase yourself in a positive light, talking about your DUI is only telling them something they already know. Good Luck!


Not true. Dude, every thread you have given advice in...it has been terrible advice. Maybe take a few weeks off and just read the forums before you answer?

OP, it's not great but schools don't care all that much, especially if there was some time between the charge and LS. Lots of people have attended T14 schools with DUIs, etc. Make sure you disclose, and study your ass off for the LSAT....and keep your GPA up since you haven't graduated yet. Maybe take some cake courses.


maybe you should get a life and not spend all day on here! Lots of people goto T14 schools with DUIs on their record?? REALLY????? Im sure when given the choice of qualified apps with DUIS or without, T14 schools pick the ones with the DUIs... because thats what i would do! FYI thats sarcasm.


Please do not post anymore advice on these boards.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:37 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:
blowhard wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:
buccanic wrote:I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


I have not been in that situation, however, i would assume the chances of you getting into a T1 school are very low with that on your record. If law school is what you really want to do, you will be able to get in somewhere but you have to lower the bar a little bit. Maybe a lot. Also, I wouldnt write about it in my personal statement. Your PS gives you the chance to showcase yourself in a positive light, talking about your DUI is only telling them something they already know. Good Luck!


Not true. Dude, every thread you have given advice in...it has been terrible advice. Maybe take a few weeks off and just read the forums before you answer?

OP, it's not great but schools don't care all that much, especially if there was some time between the charge and LS. Lots of people have attended T14 schools with DUIs, etc. Make sure you disclose, and study your ass off for the LSAT....and keep your GPA up since you haven't graduated yet. Maybe take some cake courses.


maybe you should get a life and not spend all day on here! Lots of people goto T14 schools with DUIs on their record?? REALLY????? Im sure when given the choice of qualified apps with DUIS or without, T14 schools pick the ones with the DUIs... because thats what i would do! FYI thats sarcasm.


A. It's all about numbers...DUIs are a soft factor. There are at least 30 people on this board who have DUIs. At Michigan's ASW, I talked to at least 15 more admits who had DUIs or MIPs. Between two people with exactly the same app (numbers, extracurriculars, work exp, age, etc.) they probably take the non-DUI, but that doesn't happen much in law school admissions where two people are identical.

B. I have a life but seeing as I am on terminal leave after spending 10 years in the military...I think I've earned the right to relax for a few weeks before law school. This is the first vacation I've had in the last four years thanks to the Iraqi war. Also, I'm not on here all day...I get on TLS on my phone...waiting for food right now.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Boilernation11 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:44 pm

A. It's all about numbers...DUIs are a soft factor. There are at least 30 people on this board who have DUIs. At Michigan's ASW, I talked to at least 15 more admits who had DUIs or MIPs. Between two people with exactly the same app (numbers, extracurriculars, work exp, age, etc.) they probably take the non-DUI, but that doesn't happen much in law school admissions where two people are identical.

B. I have a life but seeing as I am on terminal leave after spending 10 years in the military...I think I've earned the right to relax for a few weeks before law school. This is the first vacation I've had in the last four years thanks to the Iraqi war. Also, I'm not on here all day...I get on TLS on my phone...waiting for food right now.[/quote]

terminal leave after 10 years in the military? REALLY? terminal leave would mean you would have to go back which means you wouldnt be starting law school in the fall. Also you wouldnt spend 4 straight years in Iraq... I was in the Army and went over in 04 so dont make stuff up Jack...

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby BarCliff » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:47 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:
buccanic wrote:I'm going to be a junior this fall. Before I spend a year of time and money into studying for the June 2011 LSAT, I want to know is it worth it to apply with an Impaired Driving charge. My attorney when she defended me in the case claimed that because it's only my first offense, and I have no other prior drug or alcohol charges or any other misdemeanors besides a mere traffic ticket, it should not be a problem because she knew quite a few classmates in her law school with MIPs (minor in possession[of alcohol]), its a Michigan charge for those who dont know what it is, or DUIs, but she went to Michigan State Law school and I'm shooting for a top-30 law school like Boston College, Washington and Lee, Cornell, Duke, U of Mich, UCLA, or Vandy. Is it worth it to invest a year of hard work and money to take the LSAT for something I may not be eligible to get into, or is the fact that it was bad mistake not significantly effect my chances. She said to include a big section on this in my personal statement on why it happened and how I fixed it. If anyone has been in this exact same situation your info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


I have not been in that situation, however, i would assume the chances of you getting into a T1 school are very low with that on your record. If law school is what you really want to do, you will be able to get in somewhere but you have to lower the bar a little bit. Maybe a lot. Also, I wouldnt write about it in my personal statement. Your PS gives you the chance to showcase yourself in a positive light, talking about your DUI is only telling them something they already know. Good Luck!


Please leave. Seriously. You're offering advice for situations you know absolutely nothing about.

The OP might as well have asked a freakin magic 8-ball, and statistically speaking it probably would've provided him with better advice.

OP: Disclose it and I can't imagine it affecting your cycle. Impaired driving isn't really a crime of moral turptitude, breach of trust, fraud, or anything along those lines, and bar admissions usually makes a distinction between things such as those aforementioned crimes and other crimes such as DUI/drug possession. I got in with a much worse criminal history and it didn't seem to affect me at all. Make sure that you acknowledge it was a mistake when you answer the question describing it, and make the whole statement short and sweet.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:57 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:A. It's all about numbers...DUIs are a soft factor. There are at least 30 people on this board who have DUIs. At Michigan's ASW, I talked to at least 15 more admits who had DUIs or MIPs. Between two people with exactly the same app (numbers, extracurriculars, work exp, age, etc.) they probably take the non-DUI, but that doesn't happen much in law school admissions where two people are identical.

B. I have a life but seeing as I am on terminal leave after spending 10 years in the military...I think I've earned the right to relax for a few weeks before law school. This is the first vacation I've had in the last four years thanks to the Iraqi war. Also, I'm not on here all day...I get on TLS on my phone...waiting for food right now.


terminal leave after 10 years in the military? REALLY? terminal leave would mean you would have to go back which means you wouldnt be starting law school in the fall. Also you wouldnt spend 4 straight years in Iraq... I was in the Army and went over in 04 so dont make stuff up Jack...[/quote]

You don't go back after terminal leave...it's terminal. I did every other 6 months in Iraq for last 4 years in AF...but since I was in charge of a shift at homestation and we had UCIs, etc...I never had time to take leave and when I did it was for specific ocassions like weddings. We were also chronically undermanned because of deploying cops to Iraq/'stan and had exactly as many certified E-6s as we need to deploy and run shifts.) Hence why I have 75 days of terminal leave after losing use/lose leave the last 2 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leave_%28U.S._military%29 wrote:Terminal leave

Prior to separation or retirement from the military, a member may take the remainder of the leave they have. For instance, if a member's separation or retirement date is May 30, and the member has 30 days of leave accrued, the member may go on "terminal leave" beginning May 1. All their outprocessing from the service would need to be accomplished prior to May 1. Once they entered "terminal leave" they would essentially be out of the military, but would still collect a paycheck and other entitlements, such as basic allowance for housing, basic allowance for subsistence and medical coverage until their official separation or retirement date on May 30.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:12 pm

No response? Really? Maybe you shouldn't talk out of your ass JACK.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Boilernation11 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:12 pm

blowhard wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:A. It's all about numbers...DUIs are a soft factor. There are at least 30 people on this board who have DUIs. At Michigan's ASW, I talked to at least 15 more admits who had DUIs or MIPs. Between two people with exactly the same app (numbers, extracurriculars, work exp, age, etc.) they probably take the non-DUI, but that doesn't happen much in law school admissions where two people are identical.

B. I have a life but seeing as I am on terminal leave after spending 10 years in the military...I think I've earned the right to relax for a few weeks before law school. This is the first vacation I've had in the last four years thanks to the Iraqi war. Also, I'm not on here all day...I get on TLS on my phone...waiting for food right now.


terminal leave after 10 years in the military? REALLY? terminal leave would mean you would have to go back which means you wouldnt be starting law school in the fall. Also you wouldnt spend 4 straight years in Iraq... I was in the Army and went over in 04 so dont make stuff up Jack...


You don't go back after terminal leave...it's terminal. I did every other 6 months in Iraq for last 4 years in AF...but since I was in charge of a shift at homestation and we had UCIs, etc...I never had time to take leave and when I did it was for specific ocassions like weddings. We were also chronically undermanned because of deploying cops to Iraq/'stan and had exactly as many certified E-6s as we need to deploy and run shifts.) Hence why I have 75 days of terminal leave after losing use/lose leave the last 2 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leave_%28U.S._military%29 wrote:Terminal leave

Prior to separation or retirement from the military, a member may take the remainder of the leave they have. For instance, if a member's separation or retirement date is May 30, and the member has 30 days of leave accrued, the member may go on "terminal leave" beginning May 1. All their outprocessing from the service would need to be accomplished prior to May 1. Once they entered "terminal leave" they would essentially be out of the military, but would still collect a paycheck and other entitlements, such as basic allowance for housing, basic allowance for subsistence and medical coverage until their official separation or retirement date on May 30.
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Wikipeda yours source? REALLY?? is that what youre going to do in LS... any kind of leave suggests that youre coming back, hense the term "leave". and your little story about 6 months on 6 months off... the AF is the least used branch in IRaq other than the Navy so there is no way you did 4 tours in 4 years! you cant BS a BSer

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby ixkofm » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:20 pm

Yea like most everyone else said it shouldn't play a significant enough role for that to be the reason you don't try law school. Best advise is treat the LSAT like your job, finish school strong, and most importantly when you address it in your addendum and/or PS make sure that it is very clear to the adcoms that you are not trying to make any excuses for what happened. Ackowledge it, highlight the positive effects it had on you, and then stop right there. I had a felony on my record (expunged) and it was a big part of my PS, and honestly I think it helped me because I was able to show how it affected me and back it up with facts (huge upward gpa trend, relevant volunteering, and a good LSAT). But really don't worry about it, all you can do now is move forward in the most positive way possible.... Unless your crime involved you getting chocolate wasted. If that's the case my advise is run south and never look back.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:21 pm

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Boilernation11 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:27 pm

blowhard wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:
blowhard wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:A. It's all about numbers...DUIs are a soft factor. There are at least 30 people on this board who have DUIs. At Michigan's ASW, I talked to at least 15 more admits who had DUIs or MIPs. Between two people with exactly the same app (numbers, extracurriculars, work exp, age, etc.) they probably take the non-DUI, but that doesn't happen much in law school admissions where two people are identical.

B. I have a life but seeing as I am on terminal leave after spending 10 years in the military...I think I've earned the right to relax for a few weeks before law school. This is the first vacation I've had in the last four years thanks to the Iraqi war. Also, I'm not on here all day...I get on TLS on my phone...waiting for food right now.


terminal leave after 10 years in the military? REALLY? terminal leave would mean you would have to go back which means you wouldnt be starting law school in the fall. Also you wouldnt spend 4 straight years in Iraq... I was in the Army and went over in 04 so dont make stuff up Jack...


You don't go back after terminal leave...it's terminal. I did every other 6 months in Iraq for last 4 years in AF...but since I was in charge of a shift at homestation and we had UCIs, etc...I never had time to take leave and when I did it was for specific ocassions like weddings. We were also chronically undermanned because of deploying cops to Iraq/'stan and had exactly as many certified E-6s as we need to deploy and run shifts.) Hence why I have 75 days of terminal leave after losing use/lose leave the last 2 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leave_%28U.S._military%29 wrote:Terminal leave

Prior to separation or retirement from the military, a member may take the remainder of the leave they have. For instance, if a member's separation or retirement date is May 30, and the member has 30 days of leave accrued, the member may go on "terminal leave" beginning May 1. All their outprocessing from the service would need to be accomplished prior to May 1. Once they entered "terminal leave" they would essentially be out of the military, but would still collect a paycheck and other entitlements, such as basic allowance for housing, basic allowance for subsistence and medical coverage until their official separation or retirement date on May 30.


Wikipeda yours source? REALLY?? is that what youre going to do in LS... any kind of leave suggests that youre coming back, hense the term "leave". and your little story about 6 months on 6 months off... the AF is the least used branch in IRaq other than the Navy so there is no way you did 4 tours in 4 years! you cant BS a BSer


Dude, you know nothing about how the military works. The AF is one of the most used branches right now. We took over security at nearly all land bases in Iraq (e.g. Balad) --LinkRemoved--, took over most of the detainee mission, and run convoys extensively. The Army now concentrates on counter-insurgency while AF cops take over all base security functions. AF Security Forces are one of the most-deployed occupation in the AF. I have a lot of troops who would take issue to your statements.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CEUQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.af.mil%2Fshared%2Fmedia%2Fepubs%2FAFI36-3003.pdf&ei=IAYtTIffFsG78gbExLn0Dw&usg=AFQjCNGM_mnZzTpk7VdNgr_HFGbxfQJ-4w&sig2=boSNSaRdHNFMMgX47HrBRg wrote:6.7. Terminal Leave. Terminal leave is chargeable leave taken in conjunction with retirement or separation from active duty. Member‟s last day of leave coincides with the last day of active duty.

6.7.5. Terminal Leave Guidelines:
6.7.5.1. Limit members' absences to their leave balances.
6.7.5.2. Do not normally allow members to return to duty after a leave begins.
6.7.5.3. Ensure that members remain assigned to their organizations until they separate or retire.
6.7.5.4. Limit requests for excess leave to emergency situations. See paragraph 6.8.
6.7.5.5. Ensure members complete all required separation or retirement processing and have orders in hand before starting leave.
6.7.5.6. Advise members separating under “for cause” provisions or other separatees required to separate at the earliest possible date that the FSO determines payment or forfeiture of accrued leave at time of separation. DoD Regulation 7000.14-R, Volume 7A, governs payment of accrued leave. Note: Do not authorize terminal leave to “for cause” separatees authorized PTDY or excess leave or other separatees required to separate at the earliest possible date.
6.7.5.7. Advise members they cannot use half-days and must schedule terminal leave so that it is continuous and ends on the date of separation.
6.7.5.8. Advise members that they forfeit unused half-days when not authorized payment for accrued leave.


If you want the Air Force instruction.

And finally, if you like call the Dover AFB Base Defense Operations Center (302-677-6664) and ask them how often they deploy.[/quote]

sorry you have to make up stuff to make yourself look better on here, also sorry you joined the AF instead of a real branch of the military.. just let it go Jack.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:32 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:
sorry you have to make up stuff to make yourself look better on here, also sorry you joined the AF instead of a real branch of the military.. just let it go Jack.


I know you're a troll. It's cool...I called you out for being a dumb ass. I've enjoyed our exchange where I further prove your idiocy. I must be really good to fabricate news stories, instructions signed by generals, etc. I have a friend at Google who generate web search on a whim. I provided links to everything I said. I notice yours were missing.

The army are some great guys. I worked with them a lot.

Also, looking at your profile I see you have 19 whole posts...good job. How about you stop giving advice until after you've actually applied?

And, for the love of God, learn how to fucking QUOTE!

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Red Scare » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:41 pm

Wow, this thread was uber hijacked, and actually pretty offense. If he wants to go to those lengths to lie about being a veteran then he has bigger problems, but I do not see how it really matters. (Also, it seems more likely that he is.)

OP: If you have the numbers to get into the schools you want to go to, then you will get in. A DUI is not going to be something that will help you, but just tell them what happened and highlight the positives of your application. Study really hard and rock the LSAT then enjoy your dream school.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:42 pm

Red Scare wrote:Wow, this thread was uber hijacked, and actually pretty offense. If he wants to go to those lengths to lie about being a veteran then he has bigger problems, but I do not see how it really matters. (Also, it seems more likely that he is.)

OP: If you have the numbers to get into the schools you want to go to, then you will get in. A DUI is not going to be something that will help you, but just tell them what happened and highlight the positives of your application. Study really hard and rock the LSAT then enjoy your dream school.


LOL, if I could go an entire year, 2,700 posts, meet multiple TLSers at ASWs, etc and be a flame I'd really be epic.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby kalvano » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:45 pm

Boilernation11 wrote:sorry you joined the AF instead of a real branch of the military



DIAF, assclown.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:48 pm

kalvano wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:sorry you joined the AF instead of a real branch of the military



DIAF, assclown.


:D The AF felt pretty real when I was getting shot at/mortared/MEDEVACing some of of my guys.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby Rock Chalk » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:49 pm

Boilernation11 is now in the top 10 worst posters in the history of TLS.

OP: Like everyone else said (who knew what they were talking about), a DUI won't break you. Write a truthful addendum and explain that you made a mistake and you regret it. Your cycle will probably go exactly as it should.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby kalvano » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:50 pm

blowhard wrote:
kalvano wrote:
Boilernation11 wrote:sorry you joined the AF instead of a real branch of the military



DIAF, assclown.


:D The AF felt pretty real when I was getting shot at/mortared/MEDEVACing some of of my guys.



I didn't serve, but my grandfather, his brothers, and my dad all did.

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Re: Applying with an Impaired Driving

Postby prosp23 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:53 pm

Mention it in an addendum only, unless you have a compelling, life-changing reason to bring it up again in your PS. I don't think it's a good idea to highlight this issue at all because that gives it more importance than it actually has.

blowhard wrote:
Red Scare wrote:Wow, this thread was uber hijacked, and actually pretty offense. If he wants to go to those lengths to lie about being a veteran then he has bigger problems, but I do not see how it really matters. (Also, it seems more likely that he is.)

OP: If you have the numbers to get into the schools you want to go to, then you will get in. A DUI is not going to be something that will help you, but just tell them what happened and highlight the positives of your application. Study really hard and rock the LSAT then enjoy your dream school.


LOL, if I could go an entire year, 2,700 posts, meet multiple TLSers at ASWs, etc and be a flame I'd really be epic.


Don't bother justifying yourself to some asshats. You're being attacked personally to distract from the fact that the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't think it can get any more clear what "terminal leave" means.




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