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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by Grizz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:29 pm

darby girl wrote:Would it be better to be 75+% LSAT and 25-% GPA or 75+% GPA and 25-% LSAT?? OR are they the same?
Generally, the former.

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Post by 09042014 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:29 pm

darby girl wrote:Would it be better to be 75+% LSAT and 25-% GPA or 75+% GPA and 25-% LSAT?? OR are they the same?
75%LSAT/25% gpa at almost all law schools.

Those sub 25% LSAT spots are generally for people with amazing softs or URMs.
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Post by romothesavior » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:30 pm

rad law wrote:
darby girl wrote:Would it be better to be 75+% LSAT and 25-% GPA or 75+% GPA and 25-% LSAT?? OR are they the same?
Generally, the former.
LSAT > GPA. Unless you are applying to some festering TTT like Berkeley.

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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by Grizz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:31 pm

romothesavior wrote:
darby girl wrote:
rad law wrote:
darby girl wrote: Didn't you say you live in Tampa??
Yeah.
Hey dude, I offered to meet with you! :)
Oh shit son, get on that.

And wait a minute, now I'm being left out!
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Post by Barbie » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:38 pm

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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by romothesavior » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:39 pm

darby girl wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
darby girl wrote:Would it be better to be 75+% LSAT and 25-% GPA or 75+% GPA and 25-% LSAT?? OR are they the same?
75%LSAT/25% gpa at almost all law schools.

Those sub 25% LSAT spots are generally for people with amazing softs or URMs.

good news for me I guess. My 163 puts me in good (75% or higher) with most of my target schools, but my GPA is either 25-30% of lower. I have a sweet ass addendum for it, but it still is a 3.3. The actual number is everything.
Define "sweet ass addendum." They have probably heard every excuse in the book, so it needs to be compelling if they are going to overlook your GPA.

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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by GettingReady2010 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:41 pm

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Tennessee or Kentucky?
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Post by Barbie » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:43 pm

angiej wrote:
darby girl wrote:Started getting the fee waiver emails (im sure you all did too) is there any reason NOT to apply to the schools where it is free to send it? Might as well right? (Richmond and Seton Hall today)
I feel uncool and undesired - I haven't gotten any! But then again, I haven't sent in my undergrad transcripts yet *trying to reassure myself*

Check your spam!! cincinatti and afew others were in my spam box.

Again, does anyone recommend going ahead and just applying to everywhere you get a fee waiver?

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Post by romothesavior » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:45 pm

GettingReady2010 wrote:Anyone have anything good or bad to say about TN or KY?
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I dunno if this represents a pro or a con, but take it for what you will.

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Post by bankruptedcasino » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:46 pm

darby girl wrote:Again, does anyone recommend going ahead and just applying to everywhere you get a fee waiver?
If it's free and you might want to go there, why not? LSAC still charges $12 to send the LSDAS report to the school if you're applying through LSAC's website, though.

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Post by MTal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:47 pm

I'd say the chances for a lifetime of misery and unemployment for people in this thread are quite good.

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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by romothesavior » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:47 pm

bankruptedcasino wrote:
darby girl wrote:Again, does anyone recommend going ahead and just applying to everywhere you get a fee waiver?
If it's free and you might want to go there, why not? LSAC still charges $12 to send the LSDAS report to the school if you're applying through LSAC's website, though.
And some of the applications are a pain in the ass. But yeah, if you have an interest in going there, might as well apply.

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Post by romothesavior » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:48 pm

MTal wrote:I'd say the chances for a lifetime of misery and unemployment for people in this thread are quite good.
I'd say the chances of you ever getting laid are quite bad.

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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by Barbie » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:48 pm

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Post by romothesavior » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:49 pm

darby girl wrote:
romothesavior wrote: Define "sweet ass addendum." They have probably heard every excuse in the book, so it needs to be compelling if they are going to overlook your GPA.
Sweet ass adendum= was undergoing cancer treatments for a good amt of time during UG, spent 2-3 months in a hospital while completing 15 cred hours (made it much more difficuly for me to get As than usual students..) and before all this (I got it removed and treated) I had a brain tumor that gave me intense symptoms. Still completed my undergrad in time. I think it's a little bit of an excuse to have a few less grades. Since the removal of my tumor (1.5 years) my GPA comes to a 3.92.
I'd say that definitely qualifies. Congrats on overcoming cancer!

What was your final GPA?

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Post by bankruptedcasino » Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:51 pm

romothesavior wrote:
darby girl wrote:
romothesavior wrote: Define "sweet ass addendum." They have probably heard every excuse in the book, so it needs to be compelling if they are going to overlook your GPA.
Sweet ass adendum= was undergoing cancer treatments for a good amt of time during UG, spent 2-3 months in a hospital while completing 15 cred hours (made it much more difficuly for me to get As than usual students..) and before all this (I got it removed and treated) I had a brain tumor that gave me intense symptoms. Still completed my undergrad in time. I think it's a little bit of an excuse to have a few less grades. Since the removal of my tumor (1.5 years) my GPA comes to a 3.92.
I'd say that definitely qualifies. Congrats on overcoming cancer!

What was your final GPA?
I agree, romothesavior.

I'd think an adcomm would discard the GPA completely and only look at her LSAT score to determine admission though, no?

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Post by jackalope11 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:20 pm

poo wrote:
rad law wrote:
poo wrote: What do you you think my chances are @ UF/FSU/Miami with a 158/ ~3.95?
In, but don't go unless you're getting full tuition or close to it, so it's sort of pointless.
Well, In-state tuition for UF/ FSU.

What do you think my chances are at Wisconsin and the University of Washington?

Couldn't help you with WI, but U. of Washington is tough for any out of state... they have an in-state quota, or some such, so only 25% of their students are from out of state. They are also one of the few schools left in the country that averages LSAT scores.

For a city that rocks as much as Seattle does, their adcomms sure are a bunch of kill joys. :D

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Post by fenway » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:40 pm

My overall LS GPA is 3.3. my University GPA is a 3.8 though, because I did grade forgiveness. I wish law school accepted it! and thanks :)[/quote]

i too have an addendum that is pretty solid--I'm hoping for a "meh" and a second glance at the rest of my transcript. however, i think your addendum (i guess it is "super-sweet cuz' you lived lol) will make you one of the few applicants who have their LSAC GPA ignored--especially in light of your superb performance post-chemo.

Just make sure it comes out IMMEDIATELY in your addendum--the admin might be quickly sifting through, briskly score checking and may only glance at your app--i'd even consider sending an email later on feigning that you thought you may have sent the addendum in incorrectly. the idea borders on obnoxious, but the admissions process is generally not a personal operation and you absolutely need the chemo information to be read in order for your application to be fairly evaluated.

IMO, you should be a strong candidate for UGA in-state if you can utilize your experience in a moving PS. Everyone has some emotional tie to cancer through his or her social network(s), so it is a tender soft spot for everyone. Albeit somewhat crudely utilitarian, you need to express what you went through to reflect your capability as a student.

I think you should throw an app out to any school that interests you where you fall somewhere above 25% LSAT (assuming you have some cash for a few apps--worth the shot in the long run). If your PS and Addendum are effective, I'd say your 3.9 will effectively become your interpreted GPA.

Good luck and way to go beating chemo!

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Post by fenway » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:48 pm

for some reason I just pictured you (as in someone) going to an admissions thing and asking the adcom the SOP question of whether one should write an addendum for grades--cue adcom reply--"well did you have a breakup w your boyfriend or did you have some kind of brain tumor?"--cue student--"yeah, brain tumor"--cue adcom--"ooo... yea... write one...sorry to hear... (fml)"

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Re: Chances for people w/ lower numbers!

Post by Barbie » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:24 pm

fenway wrote:My overall LS GPA is 3.3. my University GPA is a 3.8 though, because I did grade forgiveness. I wish law school accepted it! and thanks :)
i too have an addendum that is pretty solid--I'm hoping for a "meh" and a second glance at the rest of my transcript. however, i think your addendum (i guess it is "super-sweet cuz' you lived lol) will make you one of the few applicants who have their LSAC GPA ignored--especially in light of your superb performance post-chemo.

Just make sure it comes out IMMEDIATELY in your addendum--the admin might be quickly sifting through, briskly score checking and may only glance at your app--i'd even consider sending an email later on feigning that you thought you may have sent the addendum in incorrectly. the idea borders on obnoxious, but the admissions process is generally not a personal operation and you absolutely need the chemo information to be read in order for your application to be fairly evaluated.

IMO, you should be a strong candidate for UGA in-state if you can utilize your experience in a moving PS. Everyone has some emotional tie to cancer through his or her social network(s), so it is a tender soft spot for everyone. Albeit somewhat crudely utilitarian, you need to express what you went through to reflect your capability as a student.

I think you should throw an app out to any school that interests you where you fall somewhere above 25% LSAT (assuming you have some cash for a few apps--worth the shot in the long run). If your PS and Addendum are effective, I'd say your 3.9 will effectively become your interpreted GPA.

Good luck and way to go beating chemo![/quote]


Thanks! I wish that was the case, but law schools are obsessed with numbers. I doubt they will be willing to overlook my 3.3. :(

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Post by Grizz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:29 pm

darby girl wrote: Thanks! I wish that was the case, but law schools are obsessed with numbers. I doubt they will be willing to overlook my 3.3. :(
I doubt it too, but it will definitely look better in light of an addendum.

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GettingReady2010 wrote:Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Tennessee or Kentucky?
TN - Not the best school in the state. Vanderbilt kids DO take jobs there. 36 stayed in 2009. Tennessee only graduates 160.

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rad law wrote:
GettingReady2010 wrote:Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Tennessee or Kentucky?
TN - Not the best school in the state. Vanderbilt kids DO take jobs there. 36 stayed in 2009. Tennessee only graduates 160.

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