Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

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Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Hey-O » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:35 pm

In all the blogs and writings I've read by every dean they say that the LSAT is not that important. Why does everyone on here insist that it is the only thing? I don't think there is some secret cabal where they go around saying one thing and doing another just to mess with applicants.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby bk1 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:37 pm

Because it is the only thing (except of course UGPA).

All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

It's not evil, it is merely trying to maintain good PR and outward image.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby lawschoolhelp » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:38 pm

I understand what you are saying in that deans say that the LSAT is one of considerations but not a primary one when assessing a candidate. I think they say they take a holistic approach to be more politically correct. In the end, LSAT and GPA are what counts the most (for the rankings and thus the decision) even though most law school deans claim that the LSAT is not the most important.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby AngryAvocado » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:39 pm

Hey-O wrote:In all the blogs and writings I've read by every dean they say that the LSAT is not that important. Why does everyone on here insist that it is the only thing? I don't think there is some secret cabal where they go around saying one thing and doing another just to mess with applicants.


Empirical evidence > what Dean's claim in blogs and interviews.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Mr. Matlock » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:39 pm

Because it isn't. Who you are as a person is of far greater value to schools than any score could ever show. Concentrate on your PS and don't worry about the test. The LSAT advantage is a red herring invented by TLS to scare others away from the profession. Don't become another victim!

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby jayn3 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:40 pm

bk1 wrote:All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby thecilent » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:40 pm

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Hey-O » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:42 pm

jayn3 wrote:
bk1 wrote:All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic


Also Berkeley.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby bk1 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:43 pm

jayn3 wrote:actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic


Maybe. Though I think it's more along the lines of "work experience or GTFO," i.e. they only look at applicants with work experience. That doesn't necessarily seem holistic to me (though it depends on your definition of the word) as to me it means taking everything into account rather than merely adding one more black and white factor.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Grizz » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:31 pm

Hey-O wrote:In all the blogs and writings I've read by every dean they say that the LSAT is not that important. Why does everyone on here insist that it is the only thing? I don't think there is some secret cabal where they go around saying one thing and doing another just to mess with applicants.


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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby tru » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:21 pm

Mr. Matlock wrote:Because it isn't. Who you are as a person is of far greater value to schools than any score could ever show. Concentrate on your PS and don't worry about the test. The LSAT advantage is a red herring invented by TLS to scare others away from the profession. Don't become another victim!


Are you deliberately trying to be an asshole or are you being sarcastic?

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby tru » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:22 pm

Hey-O wrote:
jayn3 wrote:
bk1 wrote:All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic


Also Berkeley.


Just because Berkeley admits a 150er each app season doesn't mean they aren't just as full of shit.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Mr. Matlock » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:23 pm

Daytukrjabs wrote:
Mr. Matlock wrote:Because it isn't. Who you are as a person is of far greater value to schools than any score could ever show. Concentrate on your PS and don't worry about the test. The LSAT advantage is a red herring invented by TLS to scare others away from the profession. Don't become another victim!


Are you deliberately trying to be an asshole or are you being sarcastic?

If I told you, would you really give a shit?

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby tru » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:24 pm

Mr. Matlock wrote:
Daytukrjabs wrote:
Mr. Matlock wrote:Because it isn't. Who you are as a person is of far greater value to schools than any score could ever show. Concentrate on your PS and don't worry about the test. The LSAT advantage is a red herring invented by TLS to scare others away from the profession. Don't become another victim!


Are you deliberately trying to be an asshole or are you being sarcastic?

If I told you, would you really give a shit?


it was a rhetorical question

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby D. H2Oman » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:28 pm

jayn3 wrote:
bk1 wrote:All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic


LOL'd

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:29 pm

Hey-O wrote:In all the blogs and writings I've read by every dean they say that the LSAT is not that important. Why does everyone on here insist that it is the only thing? I don't think there is some secret cabal where they go around saying one thing and doing another just to mess with applicants.


They lie through their fucking teeth.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:31 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
jayn3 wrote:
bk1 wrote:All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic


LOL'd


I would bet against them actually having read my personal statement.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby slider » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:34 pm

"LSAT is necessary but not sufficient." I think this is pretty common knowledge around these parts. If most of the apps that top schools receive have 170+ LSAT scores, the LSAT becomes less relevant, and adcomms begin to focus on other factors in your application to make a distinction between applicants.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby tru » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:37 pm

slider wrote:"LSAT is necessary but not sufficient." I think this is pretty common knowledge around these parts. If most of the apps that top schools receive have 170+ LSAT scores, the LSAT becomes less relevant, and adcomms begin to focus on other factors in your application to make a distinction between applicants.


But they don't.

and LSAT is sufficient until proven otherwise through bad writing, bad gpa, bad disclosure etc.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Integrity » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm

One of the toughest lessons you will learn is that the folks here at TLS are almost always right. You will not likely be the recipient of flowery words or false hope on these boards. The LSAT is the most important factor in law school admissions, followed by GPA. There are exceptions, yes, but do not count on being one.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm

Daytukrjabs wrote:
slider wrote:"LSAT is necessary but not sufficient." I think this is pretty common knowledge around these parts. If most of the apps that top schools receive have 170+ LSAT scores, the LSAT becomes less relevant, and adcomms begin to focus on other factors in your application to make a distinction between applicants.


But they don't.

and LSAT is sufficient until proven otherwise through bad writing, bad gpa, bad disclosure etc.


You gotta be pretty fail to have a 170 and not get t14.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby acdisagod » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 pm

Hey-O wrote:
jayn3 wrote:
bk1 wrote:All AdComms want people to think they look at apps holistically when in truth only Y/S do.

actually i think you can make a strong case for northwestern being very holistic


Also Berkeley.


I think Berkley might just be gpa whores instead of LSAT whores

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby Mr. Matlock » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:39 pm

Daytukrjabs wrote:
Mr. Matlock wrote:
Daytukrjabs wrote:
Mr. Matlock wrote:Because it isn't. Who you are as a person is of far greater value to schools than any score could ever show. Concentrate on your PS and don't worry about the test. The LSAT advantage is a red herring invented by TLS to scare others away from the profession. Don't become another victim!


Are you deliberately trying to be an asshole or are you being sarcastic?

If I told you, would you really give a shit?


it was a rhetorical question

Well, FYI, I was being an asshole. You and your question fail. Next.

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby PrayingforHYS » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:48 pm

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Re: Every dean says that LSAT isn't that important

Postby tru » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:49 pm

Mr. Matlock wrote:Well, FYI, I was being an asshole. You and your question fail. Next.


rhetorical question
n. A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ ... l+question




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