How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Fark-o-vision » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:28 am

acrossthelake wrote:
blueballa wrote:I was almost completely screwed over by LSP.

I plugged in my numbers and it told me "deny" at Yale, so I didn't even bother applying there initially. I only sent in my app to YLS at the last minute (on the day of the deadline, in fact) because my mom basically forced me to, and I eventually got in off the waitlist. If I had listened to that silly website, I never would've known that I even had a chance at Yale. Law School Predictor can give you a pretty good sense of what your chances are, but DON'T LET IT SELL YOU SHORT!!!

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/smile


LSP can't predict Yale(or Stanford, really) due to its black-box nature in either direction. It should be ignored for those two schools.


Right. some of the top schools have criteria other than numbers, because they can keep their averages up. Or, like Boalt, they might turn down a really high LSAT if your GPA is low regardless of what it says.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby BioEBear2010 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:35 am

As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby TOMaHULK » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:22 pm

BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby BioEBear2010 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:30 pm

TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Knock » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:32 pm

BioEBear2010 wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.


Can you elaborate? I know AA males receive the highest boost, but what about other kinds of URMs?

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby BioEBear2010 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:17 pm

Knockglock wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.


Can you elaborate? I know AA males receive the highest boost, but what about other kinds of URMs?

I don't know why I brought that cliched point up, as I'm not even sure whether or not I believe it and I certainly don't have reliable data to back it. All I will say is that admissions committees want to balance their incoming classes based on various metrics, and race is certainly a determinant. Individuals from less well-represented groups likely have their background weighed more heavily than other applicants.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby saito816 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:20 pm

BioEBear2010 wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.


So does that mean that I might have even a better shot at certain schools than LSP seems to indicate since I'm an AA male?

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Knock » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:24 pm

saito816 wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.


So does that mean that I might have even a better shot at certain schools than LSP seems to indicate since I'm an AA male?


I would check around on law school numbers. The thing about URM cycles is they are very unpredictable, and so a tool like LSP can't perfectly predict their acceptances, since they're not based mainly on numbers, like most other applications are.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby thecilent » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:25 pm

saito816 wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.


So does that mean that I might have even a better shot at certain schools than LSP seems to indicate since I'm an AA male?


just apply and find out. Don't worry so much about your shot according to lsp. no one should be making any decisions based off lsp, bottom line. (but it's still fun to play around with!)

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Richie Tenenbaum » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:52 pm

saito816 wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:
TOMaHULK wrote:
BioEBear2010 wrote:As nearly everyone has stated, LSP is quite accurate for most law schools, but cannot reliably determine one's chances at the top schools (especially Yale, Stanford, and Boalt). Also, by its very nature LSP ignores soft factors/quality of undergrad/URM status/etc., which can be critical determinants for these elite schools.


But there's literally a URM box you can check when entering in your data... :wink:

Not all URMs are created equal.


So does that mean that I might have even a better shot at certain schools than LSP seems to indicate since I'm an AA male?


Yes.




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