How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

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How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby TOMaHULK » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:05 pm

Sorry guys, but I've asked this a few times in other threads with not much advice offered, so I had to make a thread.

Questions:

-I've been told that the site is based on numbers from LS Numbers, so it's fairly accurate. True?

-As far as the terms they generate (i.e. Weak consider/consider/strong consider), which one would you stop at when applying? I mean should you diss out the $ for apps to a school that's considered a "weak consider"?

-Going along with the above question, if I'm to apply ED at a school, would it boost from let's say a weak consider to a consider? Should "weak consider" be the area I look at for my ED application if the school I want to is listed as such?

Thanks for advice in advance.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby gobutlerbulldogs » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:07 pm

from what i've read on here, very accurate

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Tautology » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:12 pm

As far as accuracy goes, you could click on the accuracy tab on their website and read that. Probably better than poking around for anecdotal evidence.

Use the LSP numbers as rough guides to your likelihood of getting in and determine for yourself whether it's worth the application fee.

Apply ED to a school you really want to go to that isn't entirely out of your league. If you'd rather go to a "consider" school than a "weak consider" school, don't apply ED to the "weak consider" school just because.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby kalvano » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:14 pm

It's 83.488564% accurate.


+ / - 78%.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Grizz » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:34 pm

If you're not a horrific splitter, it's decent. In at my "Admits," 50/50 WL/In on my "Considers."

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby februaryftw » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:50 pm

It gives a good approximation for typical applicants. I think it works by estimating a school's index number (how strongly they weight lsat v. gpa) with help from LSN. I think it gives a good ballpark to tell you what schools you should start researching but it shouldn't go beyond that in terms of where you should or shouldn't apply. Most applicants are probably wasting money applying to "deny" schools, but whether it is worth sending off an application is too particular a question to answer in the abstract.

Your ED choice should not be determined by LSP. There are too many factors to consider. If you aren't sure, I'd suggest starting a thread on this site with your numbers and school preferences/situation.

I think the site is being updated with the new numbers on June 22nd.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby NoleinNY » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:57 pm

How LSP called it vs how it went down for me:
6 "Considers" (Yellow) - 1 Acceptance (W&M with $$), 2 WLs, and 3 Dings
2 "Strong Considers" (Light Green) - 1 Acceptance (with alms) and 1 WL
5 "Admits" (Dark Green) - 1 WL (UNC), 4 Acceptances (with $$).

"Admit" seem to be spot on, with UNC just being biased against out of state applicants.
The "Strong Consider" WL might've been an acceptance if I had applied earlier in the cycle, but who knows.
Yellow is a crapshoot.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby MagnumLifeStyle » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:07 pm

Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm

MagnumLifeStyle wrote:Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?



Then can if they feel like getting inaccurate results.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Tautology » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:13 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
MagnumLifeStyle wrote:Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?



Then can if they feel like getting inaccurate results.


No there's actually some software that detects a user's ancestral history and prevents certain people from checking the box!

The one thing I wish LSP could do that it doesn't now is account for late applications.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby JayTal » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:16 pm

How it went down for me:

Admit: 8 Acceptances; 1 Denial

Strong Consider: 5 Acceptances; 2 WL

Consider: 1 Acceptance; 3 WL; 1 Denial

Weak Consider: 1 WL (Acceptance); 2 Denials

Highest Acceptance: Michigan Lowest Rejection: Wisconsin

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby MoS » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:23 pm


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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby acrossthelake » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:28 pm

MagnumLifeStyle wrote:Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?


No, Asians definitely don't count, and definitely don't get any sort of boost for being Asian in admissions.

MoS wrote:http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=173


This is stronger than any anecdotes on here.

One note, though. It's not as good at predicting you if you're a splitter at school. Also, it gives predictions for Yale and Stanford, when really both are black boxes that <3 softs, and don't like splitters. For example, I have "admit" for Stanford, when my actual chances are near 0%.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby thecilent » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:13 pm

acrossthelake wrote: For example, I have "admit" for Stanford, when my actual chances are near 0%.


Really?? What are your numbers, if you don't mind me asking..

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby thecilent » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:16 pm

Cilent21 wrote:
acrossthelake wrote: For example, I have "admit" for Stanford, when my actual chances are near 0%.


Really?? What are your numbers, if you don't mind me asking..


Woops. Just saw your profile. Why do you think you have such a bad chance at Stanford? No softs whatsoever?

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby romothesavior » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:18 pm

Accurate for traditional applicants with fairly standard numbers. Not as accurate for splitters. And as noted above, it doesn't take application date into account, which can play a big factor.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:19 pm

MagnumLifeStyle wrote:Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?


Look up what the "UR" in URM stands for. I'll give you a hint: Asians don't qualify because they are enormously ovepresented in graduate/professional schools.

But feel free to check whatever box you want. Most people lie about themselves online anyway, just rarely are they lying to what is essentially a calculator.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby d34d9823 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:23 pm

Cilent21 wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:
acrossthelake wrote: For example, I have "admit" for Stanford, when my actual chances are near 0%.


Really?? What are your numbers, if you don't mind me asking..


Woops. Just saw your profile. Why do you think you have such a bad chance at Stanford? No softs whatsoever?

I have very similar numbers, average softs, and would also say that Stanford is a hail mary.

Look at their LSN. There's a solid line of rejection at 3.8

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby thecilent » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:25 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:
acrossthelake wrote: For example, I have "admit" for Stanford, when my actual chances are near 0%.


Really?? What are your numbers, if you don't mind me asking..


Woops. Just saw your profile. Why do you think you have such a bad chance at Stanford? No softs whatsoever?

I have very similar numbers, average softs, and would also say that Stanford is a hail mary.

Look at their LSN. There's a solid line of rejection at 3.8


Yeah, you're def right. ughhh

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby 5ky » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:28 pm

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby flyingpanda » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:31 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:
MagnumLifeStyle wrote:Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?


Look up what the "UR" in URM stands for. I'll give you a hint: Asians don't qualify because they are enormously ovepresented in graduate/professional schools.

But feel free to check whatever box you want. Most people lie about themselves online anyway, just rarely are they lying to what is essentially a calculator.


Speak for yourself, I obviously got a URM boost at my school.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:42 pm

flyingpanda wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:
MagnumLifeStyle wrote:Can Asians check the "URM" box of the LS Predictor?

I know they aren't usually considered URMs (even though they comprise less then 5% of U.S. population, which ironically makes them a real minority) but are they really on an equal playing field with Whites?


Look up what the "UR" in URM stands for. I'll give you a hint: Asians don't qualify because they are enormously ovepresented in graduate/professional schools.

But feel free to check whatever box you want. Most people lie about themselves online anyway, just rarely are they lying to what is essentially a calculator.


Speak for yourself, I obviously got a URM boost at my school.


Definitely true. Fuckin Koreans

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby World B. Free » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:44 pm

LS Predictor was for most part right on with my app cycle.... (for better or worse)

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby acrossthelake » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:47 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:
Cilent21 wrote:
acrossthelake wrote: For example, I have "admit" for Stanford, when my actual chances are near 0%.


Really?? What are your numbers, if you don't mind me asking..


Woops. Just saw your profile. Why do you think you have such a bad chance at Stanford? No softs whatsoever?

I have very similar numbers, average softs, and would also say that Stanford is a hail mary.

Look at their LSN. There's a solid line of rejection at 3.8


Yeah, this. 3.8 seems to be their floor(for white and asian applicants), which LSP doesn't take into account. West Coast in general isn't as friendly to splitting, which pains me because I prefer it.

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Re: How accurate is the LS Predictor site?

Postby thecilent » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:52 pm

acrossthelake wrote:Yeah, this. 3.8 seems to be their floor(for white and asian applicants), which LSP doesn't take into account. West Coast in general isn't as friendly to splitting, which pains me because I prefer it.


Freaking Stanford. So annoying




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