Misconception about law school
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:35 pm
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damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.Daytukrjabs wrote:I think too many people on this forum, and presumably many others not on TLS, are under the impression that applying for law school is much like bidding for public office. So they take a year off and do these Teach for America, Peace Corp, and other NGO stuff in hopes that adcoms will give them a boost.
Law school is a professional school that places heavy emphasis (if not all) on academics. Your GPA/LSAT is what matters. Everything else is optional. Any adcom/applicant who tells you otherwise is lying through their teeth or delusional.
Law school is not a NGO. It is a for-profit business and a subsidiary cash flow for its overall institution.
You can fight for justice and advance your passionate causes through so much better vehicle than law school.
You should not be joining these organizations for the sole purpose of gaining boost on your application. You will burn out, get jaded, and waste a lot of time. You're not doing anyone a favor. Be honest and know your goals.
But in the mean time, save yourself a lot of time. 5 more points on your LSAT is better than having worked 2 years of your life at one of these organizations. Law school adcoms will disagree with me in theory and through their PR, but in actual practice, I am convinced of this.
And soft factors are simply not worth two years of your life.xyzzzzzzzz wrote:I guess that TFA thread really pissed you off. I feel similarly, i see way too many posts like take time off and become a PCV, do AmeriCorps, or join the military. This is just bad advice, because those jobs are hard, and not for everyone.
Wait... Matthies doesn't have life all figured out?!?Matthies wrote: damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.
Or maybe we just start to think we have all the "evidence at hand" from a small sample of very alike people on an internet messagebaord who all have roughly similar experiences/life stories. Sure there are some outliers here and there, but generally for this small subsample of people applying to LS on here that we make assumptions based on they are all about the same. Its easier then to THINK they represent the majority of law students, or what holds true for 22 y,o, holds true for all applicants. or that we have thought about all possibilities when coming to our conclusions, which is, kind of my point that, that, is kind of impossible. I know for a fact my 'soft factor" is the only thing that got me into law school, I'm also pretty sure no one else on the board has done it, or would likely even know its possible.Daytukrjabs wrote:Really? I think what I said was common sense and reflects reality. We often just lose perspective throughout the process.Matthies wrote:damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.Daytukrjabs wrote:I think too many people on this forum, and presumably many others not on TLS, are under the impression that applying for law school is much like bidding for public office. So they take a year off and do these Teach for America, Peace Corp, and other NGO stuff in hopes that adcoms will give them a boost.
Law school is a professional school that places heavy emphasis (if not all) on academics. Your GPA/LSAT is what matters. Everything else is optional. Any adcom/applicant who tells you otherwise is lying through their teeth or delusional.
Law school is not a NGO. It is a for-profit business and a subsidiary cash flow for its overall institution.
You can fight for justice and advance your passionate causes through so much better vehicle than law school.
You should not be joining these organizations for the sole purpose of gaining boost on your application. You will burn out, get jaded, and waste a lot of time. You're not doing anyone a favor. Be honest and know your goals.
But in the mean time, save yourself a lot of time. 5 more points on your LSAT is better than having worked 2 years of your life at one of these organizations. Law school adcoms will disagree with me in theory and through their PR, but in actual practice, I am convinced of this.
Having confidence with the quality evidence at hand isn't hubris.
This is true and applies to all facets of life.Matthies wrote:Or maybe we just start to think we have all the "evidence at hand" from a small sample
Me as a baby http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... s-day.htmlyinz wrote:Matthies wrote:I'm also pretty sure no one else on the board has done it, or would likely even know its possible.
You were the one who trained for two years and then pogo'd for 54 hours straight??? Respect.
That's probably true.xyzzzzzzzz wrote:In reference to what you bolded, people who need to grow up are usually not the right type for these kind of programs. They're the kind who drop out because they realize they're not prepared for the challenges their service presents.
Ya seriously wtf?romothesavior wrote:Wait... Matthies doesn't have life all figured out?!?Matthies wrote: damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.
No, I have life figured all out, I've just learned from experience that putting that fact in writing is just asking to get a foot in your ass. If we can all learn anything from the racist Harvard 3L e-mail it is this: its Ok to think your actually smarter than other people /have the whole world figured out so long as you don't actually write that down, because when you do people have evidence to show your not. Moral of this story, think your superior/smarter/have all the answers/are well endowed, just don't write it down.James Bond wrote:Ya seriously wtf?romothesavior wrote:Wait... Matthies doesn't have life all figured out?!?Matthies wrote: damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.
If you're not Buddha then why have I been rubbing your belly for luck?
So...am I actually getting luck for this or are you just taking advantage of me?Matthies wrote:No, I have life figured all out, I've just learned from experience that putting that fact in writing is just asking to get a foot in your ass. If we can all learn anything from the racist Harvard 3L e-mail it is this: its Ok to think your actually smarter than other people /have the whole world figured out so long as you don't actually write that down, because when you do people have evidence to show your not. Moral of this story, think your superior/smarter/have all the answers/are well endowed, just don't write it down.James Bond wrote:Ya seriously wtf?romothesavior wrote:Wait... Matthies doesn't have life all figured out?!?Matthies wrote: damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.
If you're not Buddha then why have I been rubbing your belly for luck?
That's why they call it "getting lucky"James Bond wrote:
So...am I actually getting luck for this or are you just taking advantage of me?
I'm for kids taking a few years out just so they can figure out whether law school is actually something they want to do or if it is simply an idea planted into their heads by a helicopter parent.badwithpseudonyms wrote:I don't know why I'm bothering but...
I don't think anyone on here would trade 5 points on the LSAT for TFA, AmeriCorps, PeaceCorps, et. al. as they relate to law school admissions.
That said, maybe people advocate for these programs the same way they suggest someone 22 years-old and fresh out of ug work for a few years before attending law school? You know, so they have the opportunity to grow the fuck up, at least a little bit. In the case of such programs, they may even broaden a person's horizons and force them to question their assumptions about the world around them. (Or not.)
Whatever the case, if a person is in that big a hurry to grab for the next golden ring, that's their prerogative. I just don't see why someone wouldn't do something worthwhile/fun/unselfish for a year or two in between 7 years of school, being worked like a rented mule, paying off their loans, and dying.
Well, how do you explain it?mhernton wrote:if your theory is correct, how do you explain my 2.2UGPA and 155LSAT in at a top30???
1) The email was not racist.Matthies wrote:No, I have life figured all out, I've just learned from experience that putting that fact in writing is just asking to get a foot in your ass. If we can all learn anything from the racist Harvard 3L e-mail it is this: its Ok to think your actually smarter than other people /have the whole world figured out so long as you don't actually write that down, because when you do people have evidence to show your not. Moral of this story, think your superior/smarter/have all the answers/are well endowed, just don't write it down.James Bond wrote:Ya seriously wtf?romothesavior wrote:Wait... Matthies doesn't have life all figured out?!?Matthies wrote: damit I miss being young and so sure of myself. Life was so much easier when I thought I had the whole world figured out for other people than it is now knowing I didn't really know as much as thought I did back then.
If you're not Buddha then why have I been rubbing your belly for luck?