lostjake wrote:Just a tax payer who doesn't believe everyone and their brother should be on food stamps. If you're crippled up and can't work to support your kids thats one thing, if you're just "too good" to work at a hotel for $9/hr and need to go to law school after you have a kid or two maybe you should:
1. have thought about it before getting married and having kids
2. wait until you can afford it without my and everyone else's help
If you can't wait you should take out loans that YOU will have to pay back eventually. Almost half of the people in this country didn't pay income tax last year, how long do you think its going to be before we're Greece? Maybe an econ major can correct me.
Yes, and if you notice, I just suggested the overnight hotel type job for when the kid gets a bit older and was "scolded" for daring to have such a thought as well.
So I presented options across the spectrum and as we can see there will always be someone in the masses of Johnny Q Public that will be displeased. I'm being too easy on them, I'm being too harsh on them.
I mean, I personally decided to try and get a full scholarship or close to it (unless I'm going to a T10) and fit the rest of it inside student loans. However, it sounds to me like the OP is not getting a full scholarship or even 3/4, else he would already know where his money is coming from and this thread wouldn't exist. So that is why I gave the options.
Also, people could also say don't go to school at all until you can afford it without Uncle Sam's help.
Don't let a corporation continue to exist until the corporation can exist without my or Uncle Sam's help.
As I said the list goes on. Most students are not parents, so it's not like the phenomenon is sucking a drastic amount of money out of the welfare budget. But there are many parents on welfare who have barely any education to speak of, and those are the ones you should be worried about, because their lack of ambition assures they will sit on your pocket for years, if not generations, to come.
I can tell you now if i got into somewhere like harvard and couldn't hack it with our budget, I'd suck up the public assist with speed and gratuity and a big fat smile. And I'd be that one money-maker you never hear complaining about paying taxes. lol.
fwiw I understand your point, but you miss the point of bigger fish than this one poster who have gotten much bigger bailouts than some food and some pre/post natal care and you are powerless, and so am I, to even offend them or shame them because they are big corporations and can run their ship as tightly or as shoddily as they see fit. If they are sufficiently big enough then the gov't can't let them fail.
It's all the same thing. A gov't handout that does not have to be repaid.
I do agree though that people should try as hard as possible to fit their family life inside the student budget. However not all schools care to use their powers to adjust a parent's budget, and that creates an unfair burden on that student who must use the same budget as a childless single budding alcoholic. Given the unfairness inherent in dealing with humans who have more power than you over your daily affairs, that is why sociology and social help programs exist.
OP if it gets really crazy, food banks are there, churches are there, goodwill and such are there...pride takes a fall when it comes to child's welfare.
But of course don't forget that the options in my first post are the best to try. Baby clothes and such if a baby shower and doting family members doesn't sort that out for you are available through the above and through people's moving and garage sales...so is cheap nice furniture. Estate sale = rich people selling perfectly useful things they don't want anymore. Moving and garage sales can be the same thing.
Craigslist is a friend in need...a friend indeed!
So are the little college kids in your school's UG who will do nearly anything for some gas and fun money. Except apparently NYU kids who i've seen on here think elevated school image means elevated price expectations...if your school's in NYC just find kids from a different less prestigious school.
But all my opinions in this thread stand.