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Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:13 pm

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby jks289 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:20 pm

Going back under review is bizarre, but it doesn't mean they are going to rescind your offer. Can you get in phone contact with an admissions officer? They will help you understand what this means. It could be standard practice whenever a file is updated this way.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby ENGINEERD » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:20 pm

I do not think think your disclosures warrant rescinding your offer. Worst case scenario they might take away your scholarship but even that sounds pretty extreme. You speed and had an uptight RA write you up, the only thing you did wrong was not disclose this info.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:23 pm

yea im very confused right now especially when a current student told me that she has a guy in her class who has a d.u.i on his record. And taking away my scholarship is major because its a private school and sticker is way to much. I am still in shock. I havent event been arrested nor have I ever been to jail for anything.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby violinst » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:28 pm

Miamiboi305 wrote:yea im very confused right now especially when a current student told me that she has a guy in her class who has a d.u.i on his record. And taking away my scholarship is major because its a private school and sticker is way to much. I am still in shock. I havent event been arrested nor have I ever been to jail for anything.


But from their perspective, you may have been dishonest, which is a serious offense.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby amputatedbrain » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:33 pm

I agree with the poster who said you should call. You might be reading too much into it, I'm sure there is a standard procedure for dealing with after-the-fact disclosures, a procedure meant for people who "forgot" about their domestic violence conviction until after acceptance, but one you have been caught up in. I wouldn't have bothered with the traffic tickets unless the application had specifically asked for them (the vast majority don't, or even specifically say NOT to include them), but what's done is done. My 0L feeling remains that you'll be fine, but I didn't think they would go this far, so who knows. Not encouraging I know, but I'd be surprised if anyone on TLS had a legitimate insight into what's going on with you, because it's so rare. I would call and ask.

Edit: Did the application even ask for dorm violations? Most of mine just asked for convictions of crimes (even stricken from the record) like misdeamenors etc. I know people on TLS get all hot and bothered talking about Character and Fitness, but honestly I doubt a noise complaint from an RA would ever come up at C&F. Am I wrong about this anyone?
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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:35 pm

Nondisclosure is the issue, and, unfortunately, it is a serious issue. "Saving face" is not an issue but I understand your concern regarding whether or not you should withdraw. Based on your above posts, my impression is that you should not withdraw, but you risk a finding that may have to be disclosed on other law school & bar applications if this school determines that your nondisclosure was tantamount to dishonesty requiring recission of the scholarship and, possibly, the offer of admission. Without more very detailed information noone can really give you rock solid advice, in my opinion.
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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby kalvano » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:35 pm

That's very bizarre. It's not as if you forgot to tell them you had a murder conviction or even a DUI.

I would call and talk to someone who can explain it to you.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby romothesavior » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:38 pm

If they were to rescind your offer, it wouldn't be because of the offenses themselves. They are pretty minor. It would be because they thought you lied about them.

And adcomm might not think you "forgot" about all these incidents, and I know I'd be a little skeptical. Its not like you forgot one little thing; you forgot a bunch of stuff.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby OneKnight » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:40 pm

Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that most LS applications allow you to specifically omit minor traffic violations (tickets, etc.)...so I imagine it's mostly about the "dorm room incidents"

EDIT: The only one I remember specifying that speeding should be included was GW, and that was only if you had been convicted twice for speeding...

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:49 pm

While "nondisclosure" is the primary issue, the underlying infractions or offenses may also raise additional issues that reflect on one's moral fitness. There is too much that we don't know. The nature of the underlying offenses may be trivial or may be so severe that one would not typically forget them when filling out law school applications.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby romothesavior » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:52 pm

OneKnight wrote:Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that most LS applications allow you to specifically omit minor traffic violations (tickets, etc.)...so I imagine it's mostly about the "dorm room incidents"

EDIT: The only one I remember specifying that speeding should be included was GW, and that was only if you had been convicted twice for speeding...


Depends on the school. Some schools ask for seemingly everything (speeding tickets, school discipline of any kind, etc.), while others keep it pretty narrow (academic discplinary action and criminal behavior).

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:53 pm

Hopefully it's not BYU.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby pugalicious » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:01 pm

Wow....I left pretty much those same two things off of my apps as well...SCARY. Hope I don't get in trouble : (

Well, the speeding ticket(s) were given when I was like, 16-17. And the "dorm incident" I felt didn't really count as an "academic sanction" or whatever the wording of the question was. Plus, I'm pretty sure that our punishment of cleaning up the caf and writing a ("why I shouldn't drink with my entire floor") essay was to replace any record of the events...

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:03 pm

The OP's case involves a scholarship that may have certain parameters that are affected by the nondisclosures.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:08 pm

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:12 pm

Also I didn't feel like I was being dishonest honestly....I was only disclosing to make sure it don't come back to haunt me on the bar application. I didn't think that all of this would have came about at all. After all, I only paid a seat deposit that doesn't mean I was going to actually matriculate to the school. I feel dishonesty would be waiting until orientation or later after tuition etc has been paid than bringing the stuff up.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:14 pm

Not if your acceptance & scholarship award were based on your "full disclosure" in your application.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:17 pm

well hey if these minor things is gonna keep me out of the school than I guess it wasnt meant to be

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:19 pm

I didn't mean to imply that. The primary issue is nondisclosure. The verbal argument could become an issue if threats were involved, and you have not given any indication of such. The Chinese women's gymnastics team failed to disclose that one of six members on the 2000 bronze medal team was underage and ten years later they are answering for that failure to disclose which also involved a false statement of age eligibility. Your concerns are justified & you acted honorably to correct them. I think that you did the right thing.
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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:20 pm

no threats involved....

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby cubswin » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:27 pm

I doubt your offer will get rescinded. Is there any record of that dorm incident? If there isn't (and sorry if you already noted that there was - i admittedly skimmed a bit) you probably should have kept your mouth shut. Now you made yourself look potentially dishonest for not disclosing the most minor of offenses.

Anyway, I would think the ad-comm will show you some mercy, though I am interested to see how this turns out. Best of luck with all that.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:48 pm

I honestly dont know if there was a record made.... I actually left the school after my sophmore year to attend a better school and none of the dorm stuff was on any of my records...I just wanted to be safe because you never know what the bar examiners can find out....see what happens when you try to do the right thing....you get this in the end...I tried to do what was right....I would have put it on my original app but honestly when feeling out those apps back to back I just wanted to get them done and make sure my P.S. statements were on point....i should have read the questions a bit more carefully though but oh well I guess law school is not in my future because I have alreasy withdrew from all my other offers prior to this.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby phoenix323 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:52 pm

Miamiboi305 wrote:I honestly dont know if there was a record made.... I actually left the school after my sophmore year to attend a better school and none of the dorm stuff was on any of my records...I just wanted to be safe because you never know what the bar examiners can find out....see what happens when you try to do the right thing....you get this in the end...I tried to do what was right....I would have put it on my original app but honestly when feeling out those apps back to back I just wanted to get them done and make sure my P.S. statements were on point....i should have read the questions a bit more carefully though but oh well I guess law school is not in my future because I have alreasy withdrew from all my other offers prior to this.


I think you are really overreacting. Especially if you spoke to someone from admissions who said that your offer would not be rescinded. They would have no reason to tell you this if it were not true. Sparing your feelings, as you alluded to earlier, is not an issue to a law school admissions office.

I suggest you take a break from TLS, maybe hit the gym or watch a movie to relax, and call the school for an updated status tomorrow or next week.

Best of luck.

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Re: Acceptance under review for disclosures

Postby Miamiboi305 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:58 pm

Ur right...they said they will get back to me sometime next week so I will most def post and let everybody know my fate...




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