Do these softs help? Yes or No?

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Dr. Strangelove
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Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby Dr. Strangelove » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:15 pm

1.) Being in a very difficult major at my school (Mathematics).
2.) Being involved in Moot Court (undergrad) and a sincere desire to try out for Moot Court in law school.
3.) Auditing a law school class next semester.
4.) Salesperson experience.. not full-time though so I don't think this counts as "work experience".
5.) Upward trend in grades (Went from a 2.1 (freshman year, 2 D's) to a 2.9)

I'm currently a junior in undergrad.
I don't have an LSAT yet but I'm studying hard for it, from practice tests alone.. I think a score in the 170's on the actual exam is likely.

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby 03121202698008 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:24 pm

Dr. Strangelove wrote:1.) Being in a very difficult major at my school (Mathematics).
2.) Being involved in Moot Court (undergrad) and a sincere desire to try out for Moot Court in law school.
3.) Auditing a law school class next semester.
4.) Salesperson experience.. not full-time though so I don't think this counts as "work experience".
5.) Upward trend in grades (Went from a 2.1 (freshman year, 2 D's) to a 2.9)

I'm currently a junior in undergrad.
I don't have an LSAT yet but I'm studying hard for it, from practice tests alone.. I think a score in the 170's on the actual exam is likely.


I don't think any of these will really help at all. Sorry.

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby BriaTharen » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:25 pm

blhoward2 wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:1.) Being in a very difficult major at my school (Mathematics).
2.) Being involved in Moot Court (undergrad) and a sincere desire to try out for Moot Court in law school.
3.) Auditing a law school class next semester.
4.) Salesperson experience.. not full-time though so I don't think this counts as "work experience".
5.) Upward trend in grades (Went from a 2.1 (freshman year, 2 D's) to a 2.9)

I'm currently a junior in undergrad.
I don't have an LSAT yet but I'm studying hard for it, from practice tests alone.. I think a score in the 170's on the actual exam is likely.


I don't think any of these will really help at all. Sorry.


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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby romothesavior » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:26 pm

No, probably not. The moot court may be something they find interesting, but I don't think you'll get a bump for it.

My advice is to bust your ass and get that GPA over a 3.0. Sub-3 range can be brutal.

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby ozarkhack » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:29 pm

1. No.
2. No. Lots of applicants, if not all of us, have a sincere desire to law-school stuff when they get to law school (or dabbled in it before).
3. No. This isn't a soft. It is probably just a waste of time. (Unsolicited suggestion: instead, spend that free time studying for the LSAT, volunteering or studying for the LSAT; also, you could study for the LSAT.)
4. No. WE is really WE only when WE is full-time. Unless, maybe, it's something really, really extra interesting (i.e., not sales).

Folks will tell you again and again -- b/c it's true -- that softs help only if you're a toss-up applicant in terms of LSAT/GPA. For example: My softs probably helped push me over the edge at a few schools at which I was under LSAT median (but at/above GPA).

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby waxloaf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:30 pm

romothesavior wrote:No, probably not. The moot court may be something they find interesting, but I don't think you'll get a bump for it.

My advice is to bust your ass and get that GPA over a 3.0. Sub-3 range can be brutal.


agreed, you still have time, get all As from here on out if you want a chance at good schools

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby Dr. Strangelove » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:57 pm

I think I could get awesome grades during my senior year.. maybe that alone would get me off a couple waitlists. *cross fingers*

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby tallboone » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:00 pm

if you are absolutely positive you want to go to law school, you should add a second major and improve that GPA by taking more easy classes. and then kick ass on the LSAT. your "softs" are not going to overcome a sub-3.0 GPA unless you win the fields medal in math between now and when you apply.

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby kevin261186 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:04 pm

In response to the thread's initial question

If you have to ask, probably not.

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby baboon309 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:10 pm

Dr. Strangelove wrote:1.) Being in a very difficult major at my school (Mathematics).
2.) Being involved in Moot Court (undergrad) and a sincere desire to try out for Moot Court in law school.
3.) Auditing a law school class next semester.
4.) Salesperson experience.. not full-time though so I don't think this counts as "work experience".
5.) Upward trend in grades (Went from a 2.1 (freshman year, 2 D's) to a 2.9)

I'm currently a junior in undergrad.
I don't have an LSAT yet but I'm studying hard for it, from practice tests alone.. I think a score in the 170's on the actual exam is likely.


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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby Dr. Strangelove » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:34 pm

tallboone wrote:if you are absolutely positive you want to go to law school, you should add a second major and improve that GPA by taking more easy classes. and then kick ass on the LSAT. your "softs" are not going to overcome a sub-3.0 GPA unless you win the fields medal in math between now and when you apply.


Thankfully, I have a lot of leeway in terms of taking classes.
However, there's still one really hard math class I need to take for graduation. (Analysis)
Besides that I only need to take one more class (which will be one of the math seminars.. heard these are some of the easier math classes, would have enrolled in one earlier but all the seniors get to them first).
Besides that- the 6-8 classes I need to take to graduate can be anything I want. (Enrolled in Italian 2 and Financial Accounting as well).

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Re: Do these softs help? Yes or No?

Postby NayBoer » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:02 pm

The best you can do for yourself:
- study your way to 170+
- take easy-A classes until you get at least a 3.0 (even if it's at a community college); this will not work after you graduate
- apply ED to one of MVP if you do both of the above

If that doesn't work, then get a year or two of work experience and apply ED to Northwestern with your 170+.




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