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top places - gpa padding

Postby fish » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:13 pm

If there's a .1-.15 difference between your Ivy UGPA and LSDAS GPA, which one do they look at? If you're in the not low but not really high range?

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby Bert » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:14 pm

They generally look at your LSDAS UGPA.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby adameus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:20 pm

Ivy Douche....

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Postby fish » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:24 pm

adameus wrote:Ivy Douche....


Not really interested in this, but thanks for playing. Constructive replies?

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby adameus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:29 pm

fish wrote:
adameus wrote:Ivy Douche....


Not really interested in this, but thanks for playing. Constructive replies?



If your IVY degree is not from HYP then it doesn't matter.
Like the previous poster said, LSDAS is the one they look at.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby fish » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:20 pm

bump, anyone else? anyone who's had this discrepancy had it come up specifically in interviews, etc?

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Postby thecilent » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:40 pm

fish wrote:bump, anyone else? anyone who's had this discrepancy had it come up specifically in interviews, etc?


You're question has already been answered.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby nattybro » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:21 pm

They look at your LSDAS GPA. This should be pretty clear because a) that's what it's made for, and b) that's what gets reported to USNWR.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby paralegal » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:45 pm

The LSDAS GPA is primarily the number given the greatest weight. However, the academic transcript is looked at by the admissions committee.

There are comments made on the TLS board that unless your "Ivy" GPA isn't from YHP - it doesn't matter. I have personal experience with this, and I have "not" found this to be true at all. I have an UG degree from an Ivy other than (HYP) and in this cycle, my Ivy degree played a hugely valuable part in my success. On many of the top law schools web sites, Berkeley for one, they list the undergraduate schools most strongly represented in their acceptance pool, and the Ivies are listed (not just YHP) besides Stanford, etc.

It's a trenemdous honor to have an undergraduate degree from one of the Ivies.

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Postby GeePee » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:47 pm

paralegal wrote:[strike]The LSDAS GPA is primarily the number given the greatest weight. However, the academic transcript is looked at by the admissions committee.

There are comments made on the TLS board that unless your "Ivy" GPA isn't from YHP - it doesn't matter. I have personal experience with this, and I have "not" found this to be true at all. I have an UG degree from an Ivy other than (HYP) and in this cycle, my Ivy degree played a hugely valuable part in my success. On many of the top law schools web sites, Berkeley for one, they list the undergraduate schools most strongly represented in their acceptance pool, and the Ivies are listed (not just YHP) besides Stanford, etc.

It's a trenemdous honor to have an undergraduate degree from one of the Ivies.[/strike]

Fixed.

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Postby lawduder » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:48 pm

paralegal wrote:The LSDAS GPA is primarily the number given the greatest weight. However, the academic transcript is looked at by the admissions committee.

There are comments made on the TLS board that unless your "Ivy" GPA isn't from YHP - it doesn't matter. I have personal experience with this, and I have "not" found this to be true at all. I have an UG degree from an Ivy other than (HYP) and in this cycle, my Ivy degree played a hugely valuable part in my success. On many of the top law schools web sites, Berkeley for one, they list the undergraduate schools most strongly represented in their acceptance pool, and the Ivies are listed (not just YHP) besides Stanford, etc.

It's a trenemdous honor to have an undergraduate degree from one of the Ivies.

1. Berkeley is a GPA whore.
2. Ivy league schools massively inflate students GPAs.

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Postby Unemployed » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:55 pm

GeePee wrote:
paralegal wrote:[strike]The LSDAS GPA is primarily the number given the greatest weight. However, the academic transcript is looked at by the admissions committee.

There are comments made on the TLS board that unless your "Ivy" GPA isn't from YHP - it doesn't matter. I have personal experience with this, and I have "not" found this to be true at all. I have an UG degree from an Ivy other than (HYP) and in this cycle, my Ivy degree played a hugely valuable part in my success. On many of the top law schools web sites, Berkeley for one, they list the undergraduate schools most strongly represented in their acceptance pool, and the Ivies are listed (not just YHP) besides Stanford, etc.

It's a trenemdous honor to have an undergraduate degree from one of the Ivies.[/strike]

Fixed.


Ah, the eternal battle of egos between the haves and the have nots.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby im_blue » Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:12 pm

lawduder wrote:
paralegal wrote:The LSDAS GPA is primarily the number given the greatest weight. However, the academic transcript is looked at by the admissions committee.

There are comments made on the TLS board that unless your "Ivy" GPA isn't from YHP - it doesn't matter. I have personal experience with this, and I have "not" found this to be true at all. I have an UG degree from an Ivy other than (HYP) and in this cycle, my Ivy degree played a hugely valuable part in my success. On many of the top law schools web sites, Berkeley for one, they list the undergraduate schools most strongly represented in their acceptance pool, and the Ivies are listed (not just YHP) besides Stanford, etc.

It's a trenemdous honor to have an undergraduate degree from one of the Ivies.

1. Berkeley is a GPA whore.
2. Ivy league schools massively inflate students GPAs.

3. The Ivies also tend to have a disproportionate number of high-achieving URMs.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby adameus » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:00 pm

paralegal wrote:The LSDAS GPA is primarily the number given the greatest weight. However, the academic transcript is looked at by the admissions committee.

There are comments made on the TLS board that unless your "Ivy" GPA isn't from YHP - it doesn't matter. I have personal experience with this, and I have "not" found this to be true at all. I have an UG degree from an Ivy other than (HYP) and in this cycle, my Ivy degree played a hugely valuable part in my success. On many of the top law schools web sites, Berkeley for one, they list the undergraduate schools most strongly represented in their acceptance pool, and the Ivies are listed (not just YHP) besides Stanford, etc.

It's a trenemdous honor to have an undergraduate degree from one of the Ivies.



Dude, all I was saying is it doesn't matter if you have an IVY league undergrad unless it's HYP. If you are from an IVY that is not one of these 3 then you are in the same boat as people from all the other schools. This doesn't mean people from other Ivies don't get into places like berkeley, it just means they don't get any type of boost.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby Borhas » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:31 pm

fish wrote:bump, anyone else? anyone who's had this discrepancy had it come up specifically in interviews, etc?

interviews don't mean anything either, unless it's for a job or med school

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby BenJ » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:39 pm

My understanding is that Northwestern places a great deal of emphasis on their interviews. No one else cares, though.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby r2b2ct » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:58 pm

fish wrote:bump, anyone else? anyone who's had this discrepancy had it come up specifically in interviews, etc?

Most people have a discrepancy between UGPA and LSDAS GPA. A lot have a bigger difference than .1.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby fish » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:58 pm

What I meant was, if you get a JR1, is a .1-.15 discrepancy between your 2 GPAs going to come up in the phone interview, or is it just going to be NBD, like 'Oh, I see you took some extra classes...'

Also, if you have no clue what you are talking about and no experience with the issue, or want to talk about/debate something other than the OT, can you just not post here/litter another thread?

Thanks to those who been helpful, please continue....

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby 09042014 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:59 pm

BenJ wrote:My understanding is that Northwestern places a great deal of emphasis on their interviews. No one else cares, though.


I got in, that cannot possibly be true.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby romothesavior » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:01 pm

ITT: OP makes an unnecessary douchey reference to his Ivy undergrad and asks to have his question answered multiple times.

One last time: LSDAS is all that matters. Your degree will not help you much. A 3.8 from a peasant like me will beat your mid-3 range from the ivory tower any day.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby im_blue » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:01 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
BenJ wrote:My understanding is that Northwestern places a great deal of emphasis on their interviews. No one else cares, though.


I got in, that cannot possibly be true.

Why, was your interview mediocre to poor? I'm curious how much this actually has an effect.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby 09042014 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:02 pm

im_blue wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
BenJ wrote:My understanding is that Northwestern places a great deal of emphasis on their interviews. No one else cares, though.


I got in, that cannot possibly be true.

Why, was your interview mediocre to poor? I'm curious how much this actually has an effect.


I'm kidding. I thought it went pretty good, but it was really easy. I'm not entirely sure how you'd fail that interview.

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby Unemployed » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:05 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
BenJ wrote:My understanding is that Northwestern places a great deal of emphasis on their interviews. No one else cares, though.


I got in, that cannot possibly be true.


Someone with a great LSAT score can overcomes all sorts of handicaps. During our orientation (at Columbia), the Dean of Admissions publically made fun of someone's personal statement and then said "and yes, even he got in and is sitting amongst you."

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby fish » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:07 pm

romothesavior wrote:ITT: OP makes an unnecessary douchey reference to his Ivy undergrad and asks to have his question answered multiple times.

One last time: LSDAS is all that matters. Your degree will not help you much. A 3.8 from a peasant like me will beat your mid-3 range from the ivory tower any day.


You reek of insecurity, get over it. I only mentioned what school I went to because any given GPA from an Ivy is invariably given greater weight than the same GPA from a non-Ivy, especially at the top law schools. Not my rules, just is what it is. You want to complain about it, take it somewhere else - I don't give a damn!

anyone have similar/opposite experience to share like paralegal?

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Re: top places - gpa padding

Postby 09042014 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:09 pm

fish wrote:
romothesavior wrote:ITT: OP makes an unnecessary douchey reference to his Ivy undergrad and asks to have his question answered multiple times.

One last time: LSDAS is all that matters. Your degree will not help you much. A 3.8 from a peasant like me will beat your mid-3 range from the ivory tower any day.


You reek of insecurity, get over it. I only mentioned what school I went to because any given GPA from an Ivy is invariably given greater weight than the same GPA from a non-Ivy, especially at the top law schools. Not my rules, just is what it is. You want to complain about it, take it somewhere else - I don't give a damn!

anyone have similar/opposite experience to share like paralegal?


No not really.




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