What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

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What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby tru » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:20 pm

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby AdmiralNelson » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:22 pm

Apply early.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Thirteen » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:23 pm

Go to class, or at least turn in assignments and show up for tests.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby cutiewiddlebebe » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:45 pm

The whole process is wonderfully predictable.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Bert » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:54 pm

Paying the application fee does not guarantee a decision on my application will be reached.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:56 pm

There is not a GPA too low that can't be mitigated by a 171, 18 months of working in an office, and one ED form to NU.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby hellokitty » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:58 pm

That a really high GPA and great softs don't mean anything when you have a shiteous LSAT score.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby msch0i » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:16 pm

A "rolling" admissions cycle actually means they look at your numbers in the order received, and "roll" over to the next applicant if yo #s be ugly.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby JCougar » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:49 pm

Desert Fox wrote:There is not a GPA too low that can't be mitigated by a 171, 18 months of working in an office, and one ED form to NU.


Damn you and your three extra points!

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby JCougar » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:50 pm

Do not take until February to reach your target LSAT score.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby OmbreGracieuse » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:33 pm

Daytukrjabs wrote:April 16 is here, which means that most of us have made a decision to attend some T-14 already. What have you learned about the legal field, employment, schools, etc?
I'll start.

1) Schools do not try to hide their contempt for us, which is in an ironic sense honest. (See Duke's 100% employment rate)
2) Schools hate each other and try to fuck each other out of the race as fastest and hardest way possible, at the expense of our hopes. (See: Free fee-waivers for auto rejects for selectivity boost)
3) Applicants are wary about USNWR rankings more than I had ever imagined.
4) I've never been so cynical over an application process.
5) 3 points more in LSAT triumphs over saving 3 children's lives as a soft.
6) Undergrad prestige or achievements matter little to none.
7) Most people thinks US News is actually a news reporting agency.


I am more bumping this than anything, but I find that line particularly funny. :)

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Generic20101L » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:46 pm

That 80 percent of it is your LSAT score, 15 percent is your GPA, and 5 percent is "soft" factors.

Anyone who tries to argue with that hasn't been through the process or is a Senator or a Sudanese child soldier who somehow ended up applying to an American Law School.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:46 pm

JCougar wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:There is not a GPA too low that can't be mitigated by a 171, 18 months of working in an office, and one ED form to NU.


Damn you and your three extra points!


I had more than a 171, but several others didn't. 2.1/171 was in.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:50 pm

AdmiralNelson wrote:Apply early.


+1 doesn't quite do it.

Apply early.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby r6_philly » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:51 pm

hellokitty wrote:That a really high GPA and great softs don't mean anything when you have a shiteous LSAT score.


I am almost tempted to say that a really high GPA and great softs don't mean anything. Period. Even with a workable LSAT score. Hey wait I just said it :lol:

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:52 pm

Apply as early as you can get your best application package.

Don't rush with a poor LSAT or with a hastily written PS.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby 09042014 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:52 pm

r6_philly wrote:
hellokitty wrote:That a really high GPA and great softs don't mean anything when you have a shiteous LSAT score.


I am almost tempted to say that a really high GPA and great softs don't mean anything. Period. Even with a workable LSAT score. Hey wait I just said it :lol:



Being above the GPA median is huge in terms of scholarships, and terms of getting into schools where you are below the lsat median.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:54 pm

I've learned I'm not as great a guy as I thought I was.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby hellokitty » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:56 pm

Also don't some schools have like these LSAT/GPA walls? I've never seen anyone get into UCLA for example with less than a 160. However, Berkeley has some fairly low LSAT scores but I don't see too many GPAs below 3.5.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:58 pm

hellokitty wrote:Also don't some schools have like these LSAT/GPA walls? I've never seen anyone get into UCLA for example with less than a 160. However, Berkeley has some fairly low LSAT scores but I don't see too many GPAs below 3.5.


Officially? No.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Nom Sawyer » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:59 pm

LieutKaffee wrote:
hellokitty wrote:Also don't some schools have like these LSAT/GPA walls? I've never seen anyone get into UCLA for example with less than a 160. However, Berkeley has some fairly low LSAT scores but I don't see too many GPAs below 3.5.


Officially? No.


Unofficially? Yes.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby romothesavior » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:59 pm

I've learned I'm in for a life of debt and misery because I'm not going to a T14.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:02 am

Nom Sawyer wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
hellokitty wrote:Also don't some schools have like these LSAT/GPA walls? I've never seen anyone get into UCLA for example with less than a 160. However, Berkeley has some fairly low LSAT scores but I don't see too many GPAs below 3.5.


Officially? No.


Unofficially? Yes.


But it would be next to impossible to figure out where the line really is. If you're white, young, and boring with no softs like I am, you come to consider those 25th numbers to be the cutoff.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby romothesavior » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:14 am

LieutKaffee wrote:
Nom Sawyer wrote:
LieutKaffee wrote:
hellokitty wrote:Also don't some schools have like these LSAT/GPA walls? I've never seen anyone get into UCLA for example with less than a 160. However, Berkeley has some fairly low LSAT scores but I don't see too many GPAs below 3.5.


Officially? No.


Unofficially? Yes.


But it would be next to impossible to figure out where the line really is. If you're white, young, and boring with no softs like I am, you come to consider those 25th numbers to be the cutoff.


If you're white, young, and boring, you can pretty much consider the medians your cutoff. Seems like W,Y, & B (like me) results in:

At/Above both medians: In with $$$
LSAT way above/GPA below: In with $
LSAT at median/GPA below: Probably WL or In
LSAT below/GPA above: WL
Both Below: Have a good time attending somewhere else

Obviously it depends on the school, but this seems to be the standard practice at most schools. As someone said above, cycles are far more predictable than I would have imagined before this whole process started.

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Re: What have you learned through this 2010 application cycle?

Postby Lieut Kaffee » Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:16 am

Yeah, I didn't mean you could get by with both numbers around the 25th. I meant you can get by with one number there as long as the other number is considerably higher. I'm a white, young, boring semi-splitter with an atrocious retake history and no softs. My cycle came out accordingly.




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