Rand M. wrote:The credited response was always HYSCC, with N in the same tier if you were talking NYC and a tier below if you were talking about anywhere else. The truth is NYU just has a lot of regional strength that translates into monstrous NYC opportunities and slightly diminished results elsewhere. That was the case yesterday and will be so for a while. I always thought it was so silly that people ginned up on NYU referred to the "T5" when everyone who knows anything knows that if there were a top5 it would not include NYU.
To the OP's point: SLS seems to enjoy the same regional strength as NYU in certain ways. Not to say that it is a peer of NYU, because it is not, but outside of California it is more on par with CC. If you are talking about eastern placement the it seems to be Y H SCC(N), with N dropping off to the next tier if you are outside of NYC.
I would also like to note in all this how silly it is for people to overlook the fact that these are not huge changes. NYU's assessment scores were always more in line with MVPB. Likewise, CC were always a cut above, and usually either tied or very close to one another (something that people seem to always overlook).
Lastly, to the point about Epstein: Just no. His hiring will likely have no material effect because he has been splitting time all along. He was visiting at NYU and has now assumed a professorship; he was a professor at U of C and has assumed visiting status. He is still going to teach classes at both just like he has all along. NYU has a great faculty and that is reflected in it ranking at number 6. I really think that is probably the appropriate place for it to be ranked. For those who said NYU has the second or third best faculty, I ask what is your metric. It is certainly impressive, but I wonder what schools you are putting it ahead of to rank it so high.
I like NYU better than Columbia (on hold at CLS), but I'm mostly interested in DC market. Posts like this make me nervous. Why do you think NYU loses so much strength outside of NYC?
I was just talking with two professors at a different law school, and they both thought NYU = Columbia. Same with most lawyers I know. Anecdotal sample, but I usually find the people who are way more impressed with Columbia than NYU aren't lawyers.
Also, NYU seems fairly well represented at all the big DC firms, and they all come to the OCI at NYU. It seems like you have plenty of opportunity at NYU. Wouldn't your grades, resume, interviewing skillz matter more than whether you went to Columbia, Chicago or NYU?