RealTalk wrote: acdisagod wrote:
RealTalk wrote:I cant believe people are actually comparing CLS to NYU. Columbia actually has prestige that spans the globe while NYU is like a state school to everyone outside NYC.
I ain't going to either school eventhough I got into both. But there is no way on earth I could see anyone who got into CLS go to NYU instead. That person shows they just don't have respect for themselves.
I think a bunch of NYU people who got rejected by CLS are trying to make it seem like they are peers.
IMO there are only 4 law schools in this country worth anything. And NYU ain't one of them.
Wow, this post smacks of extreme elitism. Only 4 schools in the country are worth anything? Btw, I'm sorry we don't all have the luxury of getting into Harvard with a 3.3 gpa and 164 LSAT. You should consider yourself lucky you got in where you did and hope that with your biglaw salary you can find a doctor to remove your head that is currently stuck up your ass.
Edit: The only 4 law schools worth anything comment is interesting considering you considered going to Vandy. Is Vandy one of the four schools or has your head gone even farther up your ass since you got into Harvard?
yes I am all about prestige......IMO nothing else matters......I don't care about happiness or all that other junk people around here talk about..........all I care about is impressing other people with my resume......B.S.E. from Princeton......J.D. from Harvard..........those are basically the most prestigious degrees that a person can get......in that sense I'll always be the most accomplished person in a room
Oh and I only applied to schools like NYU, Vandy, etc. so I could use them as bargaining chips when negotiating grants.....no other reason.......I probably would've NOT gone to law school if I didn't get into Harvard
Excuse me for the length of this post but I have three serious problems with what you said, so hopefully I can show you a flaw or two in your logic:
1.) Your values are completely off. Thinking that prestige is all that matters is not going to make you into a happy law student, and unhappy law students tend to become unhappy lawyers. I hope you realize this, and start looking towards living a good life rather than defining it by 'signals' of success.
2.) You're hardly going to have the best credentials at Harvard. Did you graduate Summa with an BSE? What about the person in your section who has their Phd in Economics from M.I.T. or Harvard or Princeton? Do you think when you're applying to firms that their won't be tons of people with engineering degrees from good undergrads? Further, what about the people who were Mayors of towns? Do you think your two degress are that impressive compared to the guy who graduated from (to use your school as an example) with a Masters from Woodrow Wilson who worked in the Foreign Service for 5 years? We have tons of you guys with BSEs (from Princeton, Stanford, M.I.T.) in law school, and that isn't particularly special. It just means you'll probably go into patent law!
What is really impressive in law school is people who have actually done things, amazing things. Not people who just got good grades that isn't nearly enough.
3.) As you are also a black man, I'm bothered by your attitude. You have lower numbers than I did when applying to law school. You know damn well the reason you applied to Vandy, it was the same reason I applied to UCLA. You didn't know how far a boost from affirmative action would get you. I'm truly happy for you, and I am happy to see minorities have the chance to achieve top-notch legal educations, but being black you can't afford to be arrogant. Please, trust me on that one.
It's people like you who aren't getting jobs at Harvard, and not because you aren't qualified to work at a so-called 'big-law' firm but rather because you consider so many legal jobs that still pay $160k+ annually to be beneath you ("I'd never work at that firm! It's ranked 50 by Vault!"). Further, they can sense when you're being an asshole in an interview. My grades my first semester were mediocre but I still managed to snag a mildly prestigious summer public interest fellowship (which I ultimately turned down to work for a governmental organization I have a lot of conviction in). You know how I snagged the fellowship though? I went in, and was a nice guy. People like nice guys for the same reason they hate assholes.
So in conclusion, I ask that you stop trying to be a know-it-all-asshole because before you got into Harvard (and before you started posting on TLS) you were probably a decent person. I hope you regain your decency, and live a long life full of happiness and success.