Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

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Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby lazyahole » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:35 pm

Here are my stats:

2.43 gpa poli sci major Gpa 3.0 upward trend

Lsat 176

URM (Peruvian female/ born in the U.S. but immigrant parents)

Americorp

Peace Corp

Work with non-profit offering legal services to the elderly

I'm applying to Alabama for sure since I have in-state status. What would be a good possible reach school?

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby zozin » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:37 pm

Where do you want to go?

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby soonergirl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:39 pm

Northwestern will give you a full ride.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby booboo » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:39 pm

If not a flame, two things:

One, you are not URM.

Two, try applying ED to NU, pretty much your only shot at T14.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby zozin » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:40 pm

soonergirl wrote:Northwestern will give you a full ride.

She might get in, she's definitely not getting a full ride, probably little to no tuition. It's the price you pay for being a splitter.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby soonergirl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:44 pm

zozin wrote:
soonergirl wrote:Northwestern will give you a full ride.

She might get in, she's definitely not getting a full ride, probably little to no tuition. It's the price you pay for being a splitter.


yeah, I was kind of joking about that part, but I guarantee you she gets in.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby lazyahole » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:44 pm

"One, you are not URM."

My parents are Aymara, a Native minority in Peru.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby lazyahole » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:46 pm

zozin wrote:Where do you want to go?


If I had perfect stats Georgetown, but right now Notre Dame is my top reach choice.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby JTX » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:46 pm

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby zozin » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:50 pm

lazyahole wrote:
zozin wrote:Where do you want to go?


If I had perfect stats Georgetown, but right now Notre Dame is my top reach choice.

Since you're not considered by LSAC to be an URM, both are out. Illinois and Boston U. are your top ranked schools that you might get in.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby lazyahole » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:58 pm

zozin wrote:
lazyahole wrote:
zozin wrote:Where do you want to go?


If I had perfect stats Georgetown, but right now Notre Dame is my top reach choice.

Since you're not considered by LSAC to be an URM, both are out. Illinois and Boston U. are your top ranked schools that you might get in.


Wow, I thought all Latinos were URM, especially indigenous peoples.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby r2b2ct » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:05 pm

I think you have a good shot if you ED to Northwestern. WUSTL is also a good place to apply since they'll probably throw a lot of money at you for that LSAT and are ranked 19. Also, although you are technically not a URM, I think your heritage will add a lot to your application.

Congratulations on killing the LSAT btw.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby DoctorNick189 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:14 pm

FWIW, WUSTL threw me very little money 3.0/176, applied early.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby thalassocrat » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:17 pm

lazyahole wrote:
zozin wrote:
lazyahole wrote:
zozin wrote:Where do you want to go?


If I had perfect stats Georgetown, but right now Notre Dame is my top reach choice.

Since you're not considered by LSAC to be an URM, both are out. Illinois and Boston U. are your top ranked schools that you might get in.


Wow, I thought all Latinos were URM, especially indigenous peoples.


No; though you are a minority, URM refers specifically to four minorities that are underrepresented in law schools based on their percentage of the overall US population: African Americans, Native Americans (I think this is limited to US tribes, or maybe North American?), Mexican Americans, and Puerto Ricans. Other minorities either aren't underrepresented or don't have enough of a presence in the US population, I think. This write-up probably explains it better. You should still write a diversity statement and make sure to mention it in your application, since it can still help to make you more attractive to adcomms.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby lazyahole » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:22 pm

No; though you are a minority, URM refers specifically to four minorities that are underrepresented in law schools based on their percentage of the overall US population: African Americans, Native Americans (I think this is limited to US tribes, or maybe North American?), Mexican Americans, and Puerto Ricans. Other minorities either aren't underrepresented or don't have enough of a presence in the US population, I think. This write-up probably explains it better. You should still write a diversity statement and make sure to mention it in your application, since it can still help to make you more attractive to adcomms.[/quote]

I'll definitely do that. The cuteness of your avatar distracted me for a bit, cuteness overload.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby MURPH » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:25 pm

If you are Native American you can get in. The adcoms won't hesitate to let you get by as native because you boost their diversity and because they won't have any guidelines on what to do with someone of your ethnicity. Check the box for Native American, not for Hispanic and you'll have a ticket to ride in most of the T14.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby JustDude » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:26 pm

MURPH wrote:If you are Native American you can get in. The adcoms won't hesitate to let you get by as native because you boost their diversity and because they won't have any guidelines on what to do with someone of your ethnicity. Check the box for Native American, not for Hispanic and you'll have a ticket to ride in most of the T14.


Quoted to show, why it is risky to follow advices on TLS

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby clintonius » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:35 pm

Argument can be made for truthfulness (it says "American," not "North American" or "US American").

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby rayiner » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:38 pm

lazyahole wrote:
zozin wrote:Where do you want to go?


If I had perfect stats Georgetown, but right now Notre Dame is my top reach choice.


Georgetown is worth a shot, so is Northwestern.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby JustDude » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:39 pm

clintonius wrote:Argument can be made for truthfulness (it says "American," not "North American" or "US American").



Sometimes it also says Indian Not feather indian or dot indian

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby MURPH » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:01 am

Clintonius, it is more than an argument to be made. It is just a fact. Her ancestors were in the western hemisphere before 1492. That is it. She is native. Look, I'll even prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt:

From Wikipedia, the ultimate reference source of all human knowledge
The term Native Americans may refer to:
In its broadest sense, the entirety of the indigenous peoples of the American continents:
Even if someone wanted to split hairs and say that Native American =/= American Indians (the term used on most applications) it would still amount to the same thing:
American Indian From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from American indian) American Indian may refer to:
Native Americans in the United States
Indigenous people of the Americas


and
The Aymara have existed in the Andes in what is now Western Bolivia, Southern Peru and Northern Chile for over 2,000 years

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby Derrex » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:12 am

MURPH wrote:Clintonius, it is more than an argument to be made. It is just a fact. Her ancestors were in the western hemisphere before 1492. That is it. She is native. Look, I'll even prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt:

From Wikipedia, the ultimate reference source of all human knowledge
The term Native Americans may refer to:
In its broadest sense, the entirety of the indigenous peoples of the American continents:

and
The Aymara have existed in the Andes in what is now Western Bolivia, Southern Peru and Northern Chile for over 2,000 years


You don't have the authority to determine what sense LSAC intends for their words to be interpreted.

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby MURPH » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:53 am

What! That is an outrage. Every reader interprets the text for his or herself. Fail Comparative Literature 101. :wink:

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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby BenJ » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:36 am

clintonius wrote:Argument can be made for truthfulness (it says "American," not "North American" or "US American").


Agreed. I would say mark "Native American" and "Latino" and write "Aymara" for Native American tribal affiliation. It will at least get the adcomm to look up the Aymara.

Anyway, Northwestern. Try some other lower T14s as well. You're definitely interesting enough (minority group, tons of great charitable work) to have a chance at T14s other than Northwestern.

I would apply to:

UVA (splitter-friendly)
Northwestern (splitter-friendly)
Georgetown
Vanderbilt
WUSTL (splitter-friendly)
UIUC (splitter-friendly)
GW (gives money to a ton of people)
Alabama (In-state)
Washington & Lee (splitter-friendly)

And a few other schools that you really like.
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Re: Super splitter 2.43 gpa 176 LSAT

Postby wackjickham » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:41 am

I agree, from OP's description it sounds like she would fall under the category of "native American" rather than Hispanic.

The question is, does affirmative action work for native groups that our government DIDN'T directly screw out of their entire lives?




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