zeth006 wrote: In case you missed my point, it's that you're putting way too much premium on the processor.
They are all naming schemes... but how is paying hundreds of dollars less placing too big a premium? And if an i5 2.53 is going to be obsolete in three years, when will the MBP's be obsolete? Two? The extra pound means nothing to me, but that is just personal preference. The T410 does include the option of a free 9 cell.
Honestly, I was leaning towards MBP for some of the reasons you highlighted, but cannot yet rationalize the cost differential... I am using that $1,099 MBP as a benchmark. I don't agree with everything you said, but I do agree that an SSD is preferable. I would certainly prefer a 128 SSD to the 500/7200 HDD. I will hold out another month or two to see if the option surfaces.
But "premium" in that sentence isn't meant to be misdefined as "price." "Premium" in that sentence is defined as "importance." Also you're not really that much more for a MBP 13. Even at full retail before your typical promotions like one I got in one or even student promotions, you really get what you pay for. I paid $1,049 after a rebate. For just a little more money over a T410, I got a sweetass touchpad with tons of gestures you won't find on a PC laptop, lower weight, more thinness, solid build construction, one the best screen displays, long battery life, the best customer service around town, and a near-immunity to viruses.
I've gotta say that I love the touchpad. It doesn't take the typical 2-button approach. The entire touchpad itself is a gigantic button. That leaves plenty of touchpad space to allow for 1, 2, 3, and 4 finger gestures. It easily dwarfs my Asus's touchpad and allows me to navigate easily without needing a mouse.
And about processors, you're missing the point again. ALL PROCESSORS get obsolete within 1 year of release! I stated such an obvious fact because you had the nerve to declare that the i5-520m would be the "norm" in 3 years. Sorry bro, but as I stated earlier, Intel's always revamping its processor lines. There's no way in hell they're holding onto it as long as AMD's always hunting for ways to play catch-up and leapfrog. If you're into tech news, stay tuned for Sandy Bridge. Even Mac fanboys are listening in closely for it. Some of the more gung-ho fans are waiting for the 22nm die shrink which will certainly make things cool and leave room for more transistors. It's all part of Moore's Law, friend! Our processors won't be a norm in 3 years because, well, there is never a norm!
Once again, each to his own. The MBP 13 doesn't rely on a 9-cell battery life for 10 hour battery life.
Maybe I should start carrying extra tanks of gas in my future car instead of just buying car
with lower mileage.
But anyhoo. Here's by cost breakdown of how much extra I'd pay to get these on a hypothetical T410. Note this doesn't include everything. Just a few factors.
Screen - $100-150 - I'd gladly pay extra to keep a 10:6 display that has excellent color reproduction, better viewing angles, and high ranges of customizable brightness.
Touchpad - I'd pay $200 in a blink of an eye for what it allows me to do.
Customer service - I'm not a big fan of trusting big-name PC companies for customer service. Someone listed his experiences with Dell. These CSRs literally read from the script. Genius bar people don't.
Customer service: Priceless