'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

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'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby spinecho202 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:16 pm

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby tome » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:17 pm

I have never heard of anyone trying to use anal sex to make it into NU, but that does not mean it could not be done.

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby tome » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:20 pm

spinecho202 wrote:http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Programs/FullTimeMBA/MBA_Programs.aspx

Through their JD-MBA program?

Distinctive Factor: Students earn the juris doctor (JD) and the master of business administration (MBA). Students apply only to Kellogg; both schools review the application. The GMAT is required but not the LSAT.

Given their GMAT % is 90-92, that seems a lot easier than 99th on the LSAT. If you have 5 years of work experience under your belt in a relevant field, this doesn't sound like a bad option.

Thoughts?


Getting into Kellogg is WAY harder than making it into NLaw.

It requires a totally different skill set, and so I guess if you sucked at the sorts of skills that lawyers need but rock at the sorts of skills that MBAs need, then perhaps you have a better shot that way. But my suggestion then would be to go to B-school and forget law.

Lastly, the GMAT is a small part of getting into an MBA program, unlike the LSAT which is most of what gets you into a law school.

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby 09042014 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:24 pm

The AJD takes GMAT as well. But I'm assuming you need to have a GPA above median. So 3.75+ probably.

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby spinecho202 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:26 pm

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby 09042014 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:28 pm

spinecho202 wrote:I agree, my post was nonsense. If by a stroke of luck if I get into a program like Kellogg, I'll just stick with the tradition MBA road. I work at a private equity firm and im in year 4. I took the LSAT and my reading comp blew, i couldn't get higher than like 166 bc of it. I just figure T-14 or bust in this economy if I'm considering law school.


If you already took the LSAT the backdoor no longer works. They'll have to report your score anyway.

How is your GPA?

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby spinecho202 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:29 pm

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby Borhas » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:30 pm

tome wrote:I have never heard of anyone trying to use anal sex to make it into NU, but that does not mean it could not be done.


it's splitter friendly

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby TUP » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:38 pm

tome wrote:
spinecho202 wrote:http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Programs/FullTimeMBA/MBA_Programs.aspx

Through their JD-MBA program?

Distinctive Factor: Students earn the juris doctor (JD) and the master of business administration (MBA). Students apply only to Kellogg; both schools review the application. The GMAT is required but not the LSAT.

Given their GMAT % is 90-92, that seems a lot easier than 99th on the LSAT. If you have 5 years of work experience under your belt in a relevant field, this doesn't sound like a bad option.

Thoughts?


Getting into Kellogg is WAY harder than making it into NLaw.

It requires a totally different skill set, and so I guess if you sucked at the sorts of skills that lawyers need but rock at the sorts of skills that MBAs need, then perhaps you have a better shot that way. But my suggestion then would be to go to B-school and forget law.

Lastly, the GMAT is a small part of getting into an MBA program, unlike the LSAT which is most of what gets you into a law school.


Different skillset for sure, but I wouldn't say "WAY harder." I worked in public accounting (relatively easy job to get) and knew of people with a GMAT percentile and undergrad GPA that certainly wouldn't have been near NU Law's range, but that made it into top MBA programs.

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby spinecho202 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:38 pm

I had a bunch of friends that went to U of I/IU/ND for law school, don't go. I'd say about half of them are unemployed and dancing for pennies on a chicago street corner as we speak

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby TheBigMediocre » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:44 pm

My housemate is a 3.8/740 GMAT and is doing consulting for a tier 2 firm (Deloitte) next year. He said even with his GPA/GMAT and decent employment, top schools are a shot in the dark for him unless he has some majorly kick-ass experiences in the next 3 years.

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby spinecho202 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:47 pm

I agree, MBAs are a shot in the dark. 90th percentile isn't all too difficult, and not to mention half the class gets in w/ like a 660-700, avg GPAs even are only like a 3.5-3.6. Most tend seem to favor people with international experience or top consulting or with an engi/math background....consulting/finance hacks seem to be a dime a dozen in terms of trying to get an MBA

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Re: 'backdoor' way into Northwestern?

Postby gmn58 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:57 pm

Peter North wrote:This topic has been discussed at length, particularly in the JD/MBA threads.

Those of you think taking the GMAT is an alternate way into the JD/MBA, well, think again. Somethings to keep in mind:

1. The JD/MBA class is relatively small.
2. You need substantial and relevant work experience.
3. Applicant demographic is much older than the typical undergrad coming out of UG.
4. The b-school is a top 5 -- ie. they will take applicants who demonstrate to be future leaders; definitely not some 25 year old kid looking to change the world.
5. Rigorous face-to-face interviews.
6. Ability to demonstrate excellent quantitative skills (yes, I know, even though the GMAT has a quant section).

I know someone (a former colleague of mine) who successfully applied to this program. He completed the dual degree last year. In his case, he'd make the perfect applicant who ought to receive an LSAT waiver. His profile looks something like:

Age: ~35.
Experience: 12+ years in the software industry with a large Fortune 500 tech company.
Career path: Management.
Barrier: Indian dude, came to the US on a work visa, ie. some difficulty with the English language. We all know non-native English speakers perform rather poorly on the LSAT.

So in other words, I wouldn't say the "no LSAT" requirement is in any way a solid "back-door" to the law school.


..is it just me...or does this guy like to hear himself talk?




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