Backdoor(s) to law school admission. List 'em.

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Postby tinman » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:35 pm

Peter North wrote:I'm just curious to know as to what are some known "backdoor(s) to admission" at the top schools. Absent competitive LSAT/GPA/softs, what are some other ways one can go around attaining admission to a top HYS/T14esque school?

Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking:

- Donation to the endowment fund.
- Legacy admits.
- Connected to an affluent member of society/alumni.
- Celebrity profile.

Anything else? :?

PS - I didn't list URM because the bigots of TLS will go nuts with the hatin'. Also, please don't suggest anything inappropriate or criminal in nature (ie. forged transcripts, cheating on the LSAT, etc).


Wouldn't celebrity profile be a soft?

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Postby tinman » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:37 pm

Also, I think child of a non-alumnus faculty member could be added to your list.

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Postby acdisagod » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:37 pm

Commit a felony, go to prison, master the law, go to Michigan.

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Postby Jules Winnfield » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:38 pm

Part-time programs.

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Postby calicocat » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:38 pm

Loose morals leading to promiscuity

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Postby RVP11 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:42 pm

Peter North wrote:I'm just curious to know as to what are some known "backdoor(s) to admission" at the top schools. Absent competitive LSAT/GPA/softs, what are some other ways one can go around attaining admission to a top HYS/T14esque school?

Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking:

- Donation to the endowment fund.
- Legacy admits.
- Connected to an affluent member of society/alumni.
- Celebrity profile.

Anything else? :?

PS - I didn't list URM because the bigots of TLS will go nuts with the hatin'. Also, please don't suggest anything inappropriate or criminal in nature (ie. forged transcripts, cheating on the LSAT, etc).


You have to do the same things you did to get into straight porn.

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Postby tinman » Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:48 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
Peter North wrote:I'm just curious to know as to what are some known "backdoor(s) to admission" at the top schools. Absent competitive LSAT/GPA/softs, what are some other ways one can go around attaining admission to a top HYS/T14esque school?

Right off the top of my head, I'm thinking:

- Donation to the endowment fund.
- Legacy admits.
- Connected to an affluent member of society/alumni.
- Celebrity profile.

Anything else? :?

PS - I didn't list URM because the bigots of TLS will go nuts with the hatin'. Also, please don't suggest anything inappropriate or criminal in nature (ie. forged transcripts, cheating on the LSAT, etc).


You have to do the same things you did to get into straight porn.


hahahaha TITCR

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Postby Trifles » Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:49 am

JSUVA2012 wrote:
You have to do the same things you did to get into straight porn.


All you have to do to get into straight porn is be a jewish guy, so I disagree.

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Postby NUMB3RFIFTY » Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:50 am

I heard somewhere that more and more schools are heavily factoring in community service.

I hope thats true because I have 7 years worth of full time community service, doing a variety of things.

Can anyone confirm?

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Postby A'nold » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:12 am

I would answer but now that I know you are the dean of YLS I am nervous that you will release your wrath.

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Postby Ragged » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:20 am

Hmm... Most things have already been listed, so I'm gonna go with a more radical alternative: found a law school and admit yourself.


A'nold wrote:I would answer but now that I know you are the dean of YLS I am nervous that you will release your wrath. And your wrath is all white and sti--- oh..... that's not your wrath.


What the hell. I'm not scared. Especially, since its obvious PN has a sense of humor.

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Postby pugalicious » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:54 am

calicocat wrote:Loose morals leading to promiscuity


Any specifics? Where should someone (ahem, not me, you know, my friend, yeah...my friend) direct this promiscuity? : )

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Postby Sergio454 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:03 pm

Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?

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Postby Scooter » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:20 pm

Get your JD at York University (Osgoode) in Ontario, Canada. Then get your LLM at NYU.

http://www.law.nyu.edu/llmjsd/llmnewyork/jointdegrees/jdllmprogramwithosgoodehall/index.htm

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Postby cardnal124 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:23 pm

Just start showing up to classes.

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Postby tinman » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:43 pm

Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?


I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.

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Postby r6_philly » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:46 pm

tinman wrote:
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?


I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.


I will give my son any advantage I can give him. I will preferraby not cause anyone injury in doing so, but doesn't any advantage you gain in life deprive someone else to some degree? It seems unavoidable.

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Postby APimpNamedSlickback » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:46 pm

lmao at a poster named "Peter North" asking about the "backdoor" to law school admissions.

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Postby cardnal124 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:56 pm

r6_philly wrote:
tinman wrote:
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?


I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.


I will give my son any advantage I can give him. I will preferraby not cause anyone injury in doing so, but doesn't any advantage you gain in life deprive someone else to some degree? It seems unavoidable.


Any parent (it seems) would try to give their child any advantage possible. I think the bigger point here is that adcoms, especially at HYS, shouldn't give those legacies an advantage, since they have probably already had every advantage given to them in terms of choice of college, tutors, prep classes for the LSAT, etc, as well as a knowledge of the admissions process. In this way they are the anti-URM, as tinman was getting at saying they should need better stats for admission. I just think that they should be judged without regard to their legacy status.

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Postby r6_philly » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:58 pm

Move to Virginia prior to applying then apply ED?

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Postby r6_philly » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:04 pm

cardnal124 wrote:
Any parent (it seems) would try to give their child any advantage possible. I think the bigger point here is that adcoms, especially at HYS, shouldn't give those legacies an advantage, since they have probably already had every advantage given to them in terms of choice of college, tutors, prep classes for the LSAT, etc, as well as a knowledge of the admissions process. In this way they are the anti-URM, as tinman was getting at saying they should need better stats for admission. I just think that they should be judged without regard to their legacy status.


If extra donations can create extra seats in class which would otherwise not be available (without the donations due to expectation of legacy consideration) why should they not at least assign some of those seats to legacy admits?

If a legacy admit is not otherwise qualified, he/she would end up in the bottom half of the class actually giving the non-legacy admits a boost in class ranking.

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Postby Columbia Law » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:53 pm

Fordham Law School pt.

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Postby tomhobbes » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:32 pm

tinman wrote:
Sergio454 wrote:Legacy status, from what I remember, was a big deal for undergrad. But how big a role does it play in law school admissions?


I don't know, but an alarming number of YLS students had parents who went here. Not sure whether they get a legacy boast. I would hope not. Not such a big fan of such injustices. As if having wealthy, well educated parents who could give advice about gaining admission to top law schools was not enough, legacies get admitted with LOWER stats. Wouldn't you think, in a just world, legacies would be required to have better stats to gain admission?

I suppose when I am a parent I may not mind all the unfair advantages I can give to my children, but I'm not quite at that point yet.


Just out of curiosity, are there any sons or daughters of famous people there right now? And what percentage of YLS students come from Ivies and other elite schools?

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Postby Arrow » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:35 pm

Transferring is also considered a back door into law schools, right? =P

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Postby wired » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:36 pm

Threatening to sue because you have a disability.




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