fortissimo wrote:Schools I knew about before college out of the t14:
HYS, Columbia (was dream ugrad), UChicago, Berkeley, Michigan, Cornell, Georgetown, Northwestern, Duke.
Didn't hear about UVA until I started looking at law schools. Heard of NYU in college, but thought it was TTT before I found out about its law school. Thought Penn was Penn State until friend went to Penn for college. Probably would never have found out the difference otherwise.
How could you think that? NYU is actually a pretty prestigious university as a whole...top-10 b-school, top med school, #1 school of performing arts, top-20 undergrad, top-10 school of continuing ed, etc. What gives?
I'm speaking from a "western region" perspective. You also need to check your rankings. Its undergrad has never been in the top 25. Its current undergrad rank is 32, lower than any other top 14's. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandrevie ... ngs/page+2
. Its medical school is ranked 31, lower than pretty much every other top 14 that has a medical school. http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandr ... h-rankings
. Too lazy to check the others. And blancos is right, people don't care about the "performing arts."
If people have even heard of NYU where I am originally from (west), and many haven't, they just think its a rich kids' school.
los blancos wrote:Midwest perspective:
a) if the lay[wo]man has a college education of any type:
Stanford, Duke, Cornell, Northwestern, Chicago, Columbia, Georgetown
Michigan, Berkeley (oh and most people don't know that Berkeley = Cal), Notre Dame,
b) if the lay[wo]man has no real education
Harvard, Yale, Cornell
Duke, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown
No one hear really knows anything about UVa. Most people don't know what Penn is, either. A shocking amount of people have never heard of Vanderbilt or WUSTL (I actually had never heard of Vandy or WashU before senior year of HS either). Many people think Chicago = UIC, and many people think Columbia = a small identically-named film/theatre college in Chicago. There is a respect for the Michigan name but most people don't consider it a similar caliber institution to NU because it's public. Duke's lay prestige in this part of the country has pleasantly surprised me.
Ditto. I thought WashU meant U-Dub (University of Washington, which has more "lay prestige" than NYU) for the longest time. Most where I am from (west) have not heard of Vandy either. (Only 1 person in my high school class of 450+ headed South for college, and this guy went to Duke. Southern schools except for Duke have ZERO lay prestige out west.) My parents still think UVA is Virginia tech, even after I corrected them multiple times. As for Notre Dame, most people where I'm from think it's a "football school" and not much else. I didn't know its undergrad was t-20 until I was in college.