Confused about Biglaw Stats

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trey
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Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby trey » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:28 pm

I'm basically looking now at 2 peer schools in NYC. Both Cardozo and Brooklyn seem to have similar biglaw placements stats, top 10-15%, but what i seem to have been overlooking is the class sizes. Cardozo is approx 300 and BLS approx 500.

When looking at some NLJ250 firms, it seems that there are more BLS grads placed than Cardozo but is this just because of sheer class size? If so, then it would seem that proportionally, Cardozo is the better choice. Obviously, it's still an uphill battle but am I wrong?

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby TTH » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:34 pm

Where are you getting your stats? If you're getting them from the schools, they can't be trusted. The most repeated story of the great recession is how BLS/Dozo grads have been suffering in NYC.

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby nol607 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:40 pm

TipTravHoot wrote:Where are you getting your stats? If you're getting them from the schools, they can't be trusted. The most repeated story of the great recession is how BLS/Dozo grads have been suffering in NYC.


Can you link to any sources w/ statistics on this. I'm considering Cardozo but I am concerned about their placement ITE but I haven't been able to find evidence that's not anecdotal.

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby trey » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:44 pm

TipTravHoot wrote:Where are you getting your stats? If you're getting them from the schools, they can't be trusted. The most repeated story of the great recession is how BLS/Dozo grads have been suffering in NYC.


http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... hbxlogin=1

this says Cardozo puts 20 percent in which seems crazy to me. BLS also announced they were "left out".

Anyway, why would the NLJ have any reason to lie about their stats?

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby HJO » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:48 pm

trey wrote:
TipTravHoot wrote:Where are you getting your stats? If you're getting them from the schools, they can't be trusted. The most repeated story of the great recession is how BLS/Dozo grads have been suffering in NYC.


http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... hbxlogin=1

this says Cardozo puts 20 percent in which seems crazy to me. BLS also announced they were "left out".

Anyway, why would the NLJ have any reason to lie about their stats?


It's not a lie, just old. ITE no where near 20 of Cardozo grads are getting big law.

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby nyknicks » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:22 pm

I'm confused, why can't these schools stats be trusted? Does anyone have conflicting information?

http://wwy.brooklaw.edu/site/images/BLS ... ent3-2.pdf

Are you saying that they are lying about where their grads work?

It should be noted that brooklyns class size is approx 500, so 102 grads in NLJ250 firms would still put them at 20% even including those not reporting.

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby agentdedalus » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:40 pm

nyknicks wrote:I'm confused, why can't these schools stats be trusted? Does anyone have conflicting information?

http://wwy.brooklaw.edu/site/images/BLS ... ent3-2.pdf

Are you saying that they are lying about where their grads work?

It should be noted that brooklyns class size is approx 500, so 102 grads in NLJ250 firms would still put them at 20% even including those not reporting.


whether or not their numbers are "real," it's more complicated than reporting/not reporting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_report_study

Edit: this is specifically speaking about criminality, but makes the broader point i hope...

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Re: Confused about Biglaw Stats

Postby nyknicks » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:49 pm

..so we should assume that Brooklyn graduates are not only lying about being employed and their salary, but are also pretending to work at specific law firms?




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