Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby panda » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:52 pm

ViP wrote:Overrated: US News

Underrated: Choosing what's best for you


profound.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby MC Southstar » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:53 pm

ViP wrote:Overrated: US News

Underrated: Choosing what's best for you


Underrated: you killing yourself.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:10 pm

overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby stratocophic » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:12 pm

hombredulce wrote:overrated: [strike]NLJ250[/strike] Getting a job

underrated: a[strike]ny school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms[/strike] Mom's basement

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby oneforship » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:13 pm

hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby jcl2 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:17 pm

oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself


Isn't TLS just a huge compilation of mostly unsubstantiated opinions that people don't keep to themselves.

I think opinions are fair game, particularly in this thread. And besides, hombredulce's opinion on this subject is far from overrated on this site.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby kittenmittons » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:18 pm

Overrated:

NYU (honestly your schools color is purple and who wants to live in a hipster-infested commune named after a shitty M Night Shamwhateverthehell movie. when people north of 14th street haven't even heard of your state school, how are you going to get a job?)

boalt (look at your lsat 25/50/75, I don't really have to say anything else)

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:32 pm

oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself


stratocophic wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: [strike]NLJ250[/strike] Getting a job

underrated: a[strike]ny school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms[/strike] Mom's basement



LOL fact of the matter is most of the stats you see only talk about placement into NLJ250 firms, when the reality is that in some markets 95% of the firms are not listed in the NLJ250 but pay market. That's not to say there are lots of these jobs out there waiting to be snatched up though. I simply pointed out that old biglaw percentage chart that everyone points to is not the gospel.

Also why should two 0L's (i.e. people who havent been through one set of exams, or oci) be speaking so freely about legal employment?
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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby oneforship » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:36 pm

hombredulce wrote:
oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself


stratocophic wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: [strike]NLJ250[/strike] Getting a job

underrated: a[strike]ny school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms[/strike] Mom's basement



LOL fact of the matter is most of the stats you see only talk about placement into NLJ250 firms, when the reality is that in some markets 95% of the firms are not listed in the NLJ250 but pay market. That's not to say there are lots of these jobs out there waiting to be snatched up though. I simply pointed out that old biglaw percentage chart that everyone points to is not the gospel.

Also why should two 0L's (i.e. people who havent been through one set of exams, or oci) be speaking so freely about legal employment? As of March 8th I've got two jobs, both of which pay market, and both of which aren't nlj250. Can you say the same?


I've got 1 job, pays pretty well, V20.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Kronk » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:38 pm

oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:
oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself


stratocophic wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: [strike]NLJ250[/strike] Getting a job

underrated: a[strike]ny school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms[/strike] Mom's basement



LOL fact of the matter is most of the stats you see only talk about placement into NLJ250 firms, when the reality is that in some markets 95% of the firms are not listed in the NLJ250 but pay market. That's not to say there are lots of these jobs out there waiting to be snatched up though. I simply pointed out that old biglaw percentage chart that everyone points to is not the gospel.

Also why should two 0L's (i.e. people who havent been through one set of exams, or oci) be speaking so freely about legal employment? As of March 8th I've got two jobs, both of which pay market, and both of which aren't nlj250. Can you say the same?


I've got 1 job, pays pretty well, V20.


+1, except mine is V23.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:42 pm

First V23 lol...never understand why people make these demarcations right in the middle of a range. Why not V25?

but anyway, congrats guys. You obviously attend a school with the geographic advantage of being located near these large firms. I don't think that in anyway discredits my statement about the disproportionate amount of weight that is placed on statistics that only show placement in the nations 250 largest firms though.
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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby stratocophic » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:46 pm

hombredulce wrote:First (V23 lol)

but anyway, congrats guys. You obviously attend a school with the geographic advantage of being located near these large firms. I don't think that in anyway discredits my statement about the disproportionate amount of weight that is placed on statistics that only show placement in the nations 250 largest firms though.

Numbers don't lie. NLJ 250 may not be all of the jobs, but they'll have the most jobs. Besides, one step at a time after the USNWR. No one goes cold turkey on rankings.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:48 pm

stratocophic wrote:
hombredulce wrote:First (V23 lol)

but anyway, congrats guys. You obviously attend a school with the geographic advantage of being located near these large firms. I don't think that in anyway discredits my statement about the disproportionate amount of weight that is placed on statistics that only show placement in the nations 250 largest firms though.

Numbers don't lie. NLJ 250 may not be all of the jobs, but they'll have the most jobs. Besides, one step at a time after the USNWR. No one goes cold turkey on rankings.


eh I suppose you're right. People like numbers; that's understandable.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby GATORTIM » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:52 pm

oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself


Overrated: your RC skills

Underrated: reading thread title

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby get it to x » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:52 pm

Underrated - Richmond?
Lots of great professors and access to a market that has several big law firms. Trying to think outside the box here.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby pollaclc » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:54 pm

GATORTIM wrote:Underrated: reading thread title

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby oneforship » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:54 pm

GATORTIM wrote:
oneforship wrote:
hombredulce wrote:overrated: NLJ250

underrated: any school not surrounded by NLJ250 firms


Overrated: your opinion

Underrated: keeping it to yourself


Overrated: your RC skills

Underrated: reading thread title


underrated: irony

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby KibblesAndVick » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:13 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Overrated:

Stanford (seriously, where is this school? nobody knows, but I think it's in California, who cares)
Berkeley (California, what else do I need to say)
Chicago (because it's a TTT state public school)
Vanderbilt (good luck living in the south the rest of your life, yuck)
Duke (Ann Coulter went there)
Michigan (a half hour drive from Detroit, seriously, who's idea was that?)


Ann Coulter went to Michigan LS and Cornell UG. Richard Nixon might be a suitable replacement. Maybe Tucker Max as well, but he is probably more of an asset than a liability. Unless, of course, you simply meant that Ann Coulter literally once visited Duke. Cause even that is inexcusable.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Snuffie » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:16 pm

Seems like a good time to introduce this.

No idea about overrated.

Underrated? Both Rutgers schools, I suppose.
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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby macattaq » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:17 pm

Overrated: schools that practice grade inflation.
Underrated: grade integrity.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Shlonster » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:50 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:Boalt and Cornell are overrated, look at the numbers of their latest entering class


No, way idiot. Those schools look beyond the numbers. One or two LSAT points don't really make a difference anyways. Boalt and Cornell look at the whole applicant.


LOL, GTFO bro. That's all a bullshit way of justifying their sub-par numbers.


You disgust me. It's people like you that have led to this ridiculous overly number focused process of law school admission. Because Berkeley's LSAT median is a point or two lower, that means they are producing less capable lawyers?????? That's absurd, and racist.


+1.

To all of it.

-1 to everyone else quoting you.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby solidsnake » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:54 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:Boalt and Cornell are overrated, look at the numbers of their latest entering class


No, way idiot. Those schools look beyond the numbers. One or two LSAT points don't really make a difference anyways. Boalt and Cornell look at the whole applicant.



Who gives a shit about the whole applicant?
PSA: YOU'RE NOT THAT SPECIAL.

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby Helmholtz » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:55 pm

D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:Boalt and Cornell are overrated, look at the numbers of their latest entering class


No, way idiot. Those schools look beyond the numbers. One or two LSAT points don't really make a difference anyways. Boalt and Cornell look at the whole applicant.


LOL, GTFO bro. That's all a bullshit way of justifying their sub-par numbers.


You disgust me. It's people like you that have led to this ridiculous overly number focused process of law school admission. Because Berkeley's LSAT median is a point or two lower, that means they are producing less capable lawyers?????? That's absurd, and racist.

:lol:

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby SandyC877 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:55 pm

Overrated:

GULC, DUKE

Underrated:

UCLA, TEXAS,

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Re: Overrated and Underrated Schools (In your opinion)

Postby ec2xs » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:57 pm

get it to x wrote:Underrated - Richmond?
Lots of great professors and access to a market that has several big law firms. Trying to think outside the box here.


Really struggles in the job market, from everything I've read (I did my undergrad at UR).

I'll say SMU. Barely top-50, but dominates an enormous legal market.




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