Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby Hattori Hanzo » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:00 pm

Thanks for the help. Withdrawing from a few schools today.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby lawman2010 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:27 pm

existenz wrote:UC Hastings

Nice. I need this one. Sitting on waitlist right now...

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby lawman2010 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:10 pm

Anyone else want to keep the momentum going? We're opening up spots today to help our fellow TLSers who are either on waitlists or are in review...

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby Tangerine Gleam » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:08 pm

Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby Mattisgo » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:24 pm

I did DePaul, Loyola Chi and San Diego. Good luck to everyone!

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby neskerdoo » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:27 pm

Tangerine Gleam wrote:Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.



no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby crm » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:38 am

Withdrew from Villanova, good luck

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby cartercl » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:51 am

neskerdoo wrote:
Tangerine Gleam wrote:Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.



no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.


Edit: Unfortunately, you (and others like you) represent a much larger portion of the population...
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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby 09042014 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:53 am

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot.

HTH

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby cartercl » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:02 am

Desert Fox wrote:Withdrawing doesn't open a spot.

HTH


Maybe not. But it certainly allows those borderline candidates to be viewed more favorably in the eyes of adcomms considering the fact that one more 3.5/168 candidate has been removed from an applicant pool full of splitters at a T2 or T3.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby neskerdoo » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:07 am

cartercl wrote:
neskerdoo wrote:
Tangerine Gleam wrote:Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.



no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.


Edit: Unfortunately, you (and others like you) represent a much larger portion of the population...



yes, it's a real shame, I know

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby set88 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:04 pm

neskerdoo wrote:
Tangerine Gleam wrote:Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.



no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.


We may not care about where individual people withdrew from but I think the overall idea is solid. You can't deny that if everyone right now withdrew from the schools they've already decided they don't really want to go to, the admissions process might move faster for the people still waiting. It certainly is not going to hurt. So why not encourage people to do it? This is a great thread.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby mailmanstalker » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:20 pm

great thread +1

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby Snoopy1216 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:39 pm

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby 09042014 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:48 pm

Snoopy1216 wrote:Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...


Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby Snoopy1216 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:57 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Snoopy1216 wrote:Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...


Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.


I agree that adcomms plan for some of their applicants to be swayed, but not all and certainly not most. While they can guarantee that the higher applicants are out, the medians ones will be a gamble. And those are the ones schools need to at least keep the same rankings. Since there is no real guarantee for who is in and who is out for those, adcomms can't really look at the lower numbers (people waiting for spots) until they can assure their rankings/medians will be taken care of...

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby 09042014 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:09 pm

Snoopy1216 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Snoopy1216 wrote:Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...


Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.


I agree that adcomms plan for some of their applicants to be swayed, but not all and certainly not most. While they can guarantee that the higher applicants are out, the medians ones will be a gamble. And those are the ones schools need to at least keep the same rankings. Since there is no real guarantee for who is in and who is out for those, adcomms can't really look at the lower numbers (people waiting for spots) until they can assure their rankings/medians will be taken care of...


Most schools have a yield rate of under 50%. More like 25-35%. Last year Michigan admitted almost 1200 applicants. Only 370 end up there.

They are not going to admit someone else because you withdraw. It's a probability game.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby amputatedbrain » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:21 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Snoopy1216 wrote:Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...


Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.


I'd guess no single withdrawal opens up spots, only if they get more withdrawals than they planned for, in which case they would go to the waitlist. And even if a school did end up with a few empty seats, would they admit people with sub-par numbers to fill them? I know they want every seat filled with a paying customer and all, but too much of that probably hurts their ranking?

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby 09042014 » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:32 pm

amputatedbrain wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Snoopy1216 wrote:Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...


Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.


I'd guess no single withdrawal opens up spots, only if they get more withdrawals than they planned for, in which case they would go to the waitlist. And even if a school did end up with a few empty seats, would they admit people with sub-par numbers to fill them? I know they want every seat filled with a paying customer and all, but too much of that probably hurts their ranking?



Yes they go to the waitlist, but they won't know a final count until deposits are due. Which is why withdrawing early doesn't help.

A school would take more sub-par splitters to fill their class because they won't hurt their medians.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby BaiAilian2013 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:21 pm

Bumping this thread - let's withdraw some more applications!

I just withdrew from GULC, UVA, BU, and Penn.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby AEF2813 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:31 pm

withdrawn from:
gulc
columbia
upenn
duke

:lol:

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby cartercl » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:21 pm

Withdrew from the University of Tennessee

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby DukeHopeful » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:30 pm

First, thanks to everyone withdrawing, whether it's a plus for us sitting on some WLs or not. It's psychologically helpful to me, at least. :lol:

A quick thought though about it helping others out. Maybe it doesn't open up spots to those on the WL, but those who are withdrawing and putting money back on the table certainly help out applicants who may already be admitted and are hoping for a little more $$ by freeing up scholly funds.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby lawman2010 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:51 am

DukeHopeful wrote:First, thanks to everyone withdrawing, whether it's a plus for us sitting on some WLs or not. It's psychologically helpful to me, at least. :lol:

A quick thought though about it helping others out. Maybe it doesn't open up spots to those on the WL, but those who are withdrawing and putting money back on the table certainly help out applicants who may already be admitted and are hoping for a little more $$ by freeing up scholly funds.

^^^^^^ Agreed.

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Re: Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day

Postby SandyC877 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:15 pm

withdrew: UT, Tennessee, Vandy, Hastings, USC, Florida, Loyola LA, Pepperdine.

Good luck yall.




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