william wallace wrote:Some people have already started/ran/sold their own business and are now applying to law school. That's a million times harder than learning a language. Do you think these are low, average, or above average softs compared to those that apply? Just curious. Either way, I will take the LSAT again, especially once everyone rejects me.
And yes, that's why I am revealing this information to you all. Also, I am interested in international law or immigration law. The latter will be easier than international, albeit not easy.
Okay, now this is where I am concerned. You say nothing short of a JD from Columbia. Someone who didn't go to a top 20 international law school would disagree. They would disagree for a few reasons:
1. Obviously, because they don't want to believe that.
2. They have false hope that their school gave them.
3. They think that the only people who say that are the ones who attended an elite school (an truly amazing feat by the way. I wish I was that gifted).
4. Everyone wants what they can't have
Here are some other issues I'd like to address:
1. Does making these connections require that you have or are pursuing a JD at a Columbia or an NYU?
2. Maybe this is a generality designed to give hope when sometimes there isn't any, but here it goes: It's not where you went, it's what you make of it.
3. What about upward mobility after graduation? Why does where you went to school matter so much? Does anyone think where you went to school is too much of an ego thing? If it is, that doesn't matter, just a thought. What matters is: Does it really matter THAT much where you went to school? If yes, then why? Is it solely perception?
Also, a very insightful, though cynical thread can be found at. EVERYONE on this thread should read this if they haven't already.
The fact that you spent an extended period of time abroad teaching in a language that is not your mother tongue definitely adds to your diversity, and will be effective at the range of schools that you are applying to, however, in comparison to others applying to much higher ranked schools, your softs will not make up for your scores and the fact that you are applying late in the cycle. Your chances of admittance are greatly increased when you apply in November vs at a school's deadline since by virtue of rolling admissions there are naturally fewer spots available in the incoming class.
In the range of schools that you are looking at, I would say that your chances of doing well in international law is very minimal, and thus you should forget about that as an area of concentration. Immigration law,however, could be very prosperous for you. Think of it this way....If you go to a school that is outside of the top 20, your school is most likely going to be a regional school, meaning that it places its graduates into law firms/agencies in the same region that the school is located. This makes sense, as your employment chances will most likely be a result of your schools alumni network and outreach to the community.
If you go to a top school, where the alumni network is influential, i.e. are partners at big firms, etc..., then your chances of getting into a good firm that pays top salaries and practices the field of law you desire (say handles big transnational mergers and acquisitions) is much higher. Thus, the wealthy and elite become more wealthy and elite, whereas those going to lower ranked schools have a more difficult time breaking into these firms.
So most likely, barring your admittance to a top ranked school, you are going to be practicing those first crucial years of your career in the immediate area of the school you went to, and most likely you are going to be practicing in either a small firm (that does not have the prestige to do international law) or a government/non-profit agency. Thus, immigration law, say in Miami, is a likely career path, as you will be dealing with individuals having difficulties in your jurisdiction, rather than transnational corporations who will be giving their business to the firms that are composed almost entirely of lawyers who graduated from top law schools.
So, in the end, YES, it matters greatly where you go to law school!