Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby monarchylover » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:52 pm

kblackwell wrote:So charleston school of law's financial aid department isn't that great? I'm working hard to make as good a gpa as I can. I would like to go to a top tier law school. Yes I work a part time job and am definately getting my education. I'm a lawyer as soon as someone thinks their something their that. I'm not sure where I'm going to law school though. I live in the upstate of South Carolina. I will be applying to Charleston and South Carolina. If accepted by both I would choose South Carolina. However the LSAT guide suggest choosing at least 7 schools to apply to. I have chosen 2 reach schools, 3 good bet schools, and two safety schools and right now Charleston is one my safety schools. In the event that my gpa when I graduate with my Bachelors Degree isn't as good as I think it will be I will make up a couple of hypothetical list of less selective law schools to apply to. I will definately stick with now matter how long it takes no matter how high the unemployment rate. You more likely to get a decent paying job if you have the education. When you graduate law school go to the career services office and they will help line you up with a job. The median score LSAT is 156 and there are law schools that accept people who have made below that Charleston being one of them. I wouldn't let one low LSAT score stop me or make me rethink my plans. Just based of careful analysis the only drawback to Charleston would be that there are no residence halls or meal plans and there J.D. program is simply the standard J.D. program, there is no intellectual property law for example. There are no dual degree programs either. The positive is the tuition is about the same as at University of South Carolina and since its the standard stuff we should call it a bang for the buck. You can get your J.D. and then pass the bar. I would really like to go to Duke School of Law and if I do then I am going to do a J.D./M.B.A. dual degree and if I don't I make it in to a lower tier law school like Charleston then I'll just get my J.D. and pass the bar and even then I will still feel that I have prospered.


What is your other reach besides duke? I think you might want to throw an app at yale and really really think about it because as long as you think you're in you got it man!!! O and what about those good bet schools?

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby westinghouse60 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:35 am

swinger wrote:they cant become a lawyer until they think [they're] that.

All you have to do is believe in yourself! :D :D :D



scammedhard wrote:Thanks to be ABA and its lax policies, I bet this person will get into a law school. He/she perfectly illustrates why there is a glut of unemployed/underemployed lawyers: These days ANY DONKEY can become a lawyer.


But in all seriousness, +1.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby Real Madrid » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:24 pm

kblackwell wrote:So charleston school of law's financial aid department isn't that great? I'm working hard to make as good a gpa as I can. I would like to go to a top tier law school. Yes I work a part time job and am definately getting my education. I'm a lawyer as soon as someone thinks their something their that. I'm not sure where I'm going to law school though. I live in the upstate of South Carolina. I will be applying to Charleston and South Carolina. If accepted by both I would choose South Carolina. However the LSAT guide suggest choosing at least 7 schools to apply to. I have chosen 2 reach schools, 3 good bet schools, and two safety schools and right now Charleston is one my safety schools. In the event that my gpa when I graduate with my Bachelors Degree isn't as good as I think it will be I will make up a couple of hypothetical list of less selective law schools to apply to. I will definately stick with now matter how long it takes no matter how high the unemployment rate. You more likely to get a decent paying job if you have the education. When you graduate law school go to the career services office and they will help line you up with a job. The median score LSAT is 156 and there are law schools that accept people who have made below that Charleston being one of them. I wouldn't let one low LSAT score stop me or make me rethink my plans. Just based of careful analysis the only drawback to Charleston would be that there are no residence halls or meal plans and there J.D. program is simply the standard J.D. program, there is no intellectual property law for example. There are no dual degree programs either. The positive is the tuition is about the same as at University of South Carolina and since its the standard stuff we should call it a bang for the buck. You can get your J.D. and then pass the bar. I would really like to go to Duke School of Law and if I do then I am going to do a J.D./M.B.A. dual degree and if I don't I make it in to a lower tier law school like Charleston then I'll just get my J.D. and pass the bar and even then I will still feel that I have prospered.


I will pay to read your personal statement.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby kblackwell20 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:51 pm

I think that your right a person with scores as low as this guy who began this discussion shouldn't be a lawyer.
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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby WhoIsDonDraper » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:18 pm

kblackwell20 wrote:I would like the opportunity to clarify what I mean. What I meant to say was "As soon as you think you are a lawyer your that". I am using an idea that filmmaker Robert Rodriguez has used in film encouraging people to go into the profession of filmmaking. He believed that people like him had been led to believe that being a filmmaker was more difficult than it actually was. Just because someones numbers are a little low does not mean that they are not cut out to be an attorney. I did not volunteer what my grades were so none of you know whether or not I could make it in to Harvard or Yale. The reality is that I could. I believe that if a person sets their mind to something that they can accomplish anything. The reason that I wrote something about Charleston's tuition being cheap is because it is a private school and its tuition is about the same as the public law school in the state and private school tuitions tend to be more expensive. I would say that the drawbacks to attending Charleston would be that to my knowledge they only offer the standard Juris Doctor program. I don't think that you can concentrate you degree in any specific area of law such as intellectual property law. Another drawback would be that there are no dual degrees offered at Charleston. I think that all of these schools are good schools because they have to pass strict requirements set by the ABA to receive. There are not as many drawbacks to South Carolina Law. You have more options available. This guy that we are talking about though "2.86 gpa/156 lsat" is gonna have a hell of a time. His best bet might be Appalachian School of Law. I would like to see statistics on who doesn get into these schools. There are law school admissions chances calculators online. I apologize for being a bit clumsy in my original post. I see evidence that many people who graduate from 3rd and 4th tier law schools find employment within a reasonable period of time after their graduating. Something like 96% from Yale and Harvard and 70% from Appalachian School of Law which is on the bottom of the list. I don't know why those who don't find employment don't find employment. The reason that I mentioned the career services being a possibility is because for example I know a guy that recently graduated from one of the universites here in the state of South Carolina and he would not go to the career services people when he graduated, which he should have because its a free service that they are supposed to provide to you, they are supposed to help line him up with a job in the field in which he has received his degree. I can't tell you why the others don't find employment.


This is my favorite thread since AreYouInsane's forum. If you haven't had a chance take a look at this one.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=157855&start=100

Whenever I feel the need for advice on how to become a lawyer I also look to the world-renowned filmmaker Robert Rodriguez. With a filmography that includes Spy Kids 1-4 and the widely-celebrated From Duck 'til Dawn, what could possibly wrong with this advice? I myself also often consider Michael Bay's philosophy when it comes to accomplishing your dreams: if there is something in the way of your dreams, blow it up in a huge explosion, just make sure there is a hot girl just out of frame.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby descartesb4thehorse » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:28 pm

WhoIsDonDraper wrote:
kblackwell20 wrote:I would like the opportunity to clarify what I mean. What I meant to say was "As soon as you think you are a lawyer your that". I am using an idea that filmmaker Robert Rodriguez has used in film encouraging people to go into the profession of filmmaking. He believed that people like him had been led to believe that being a filmmaker was more difficult than it actually was. Just because someones numbers are a little low does not mean that they are not cut out to be an attorney. I did not volunteer what my grades were so none of you know whether or not I could make it in to Harvard or Yale. The reality is that I could. I believe that if a person sets their mind to something that they can accomplish anything. The reason that I wrote something about Charleston's tuition being cheap is because it is a private school and its tuition is about the same as the public law school in the state and private school tuitions tend to be more expensive. I would say that the drawbacks to attending Charleston would be that to my knowledge they only offer the standard Juris Doctor program. I don't think that you can concentrate you degree in any specific area of law such as intellectual property law. Another drawback would be that there are no dual degrees offered at Charleston. I think that all of these schools are good schools because they have to pass strict requirements set by the ABA to receive. There are not as many drawbacks to South Carolina Law. You have more options available. This guy that we are talking about though "2.86 gpa/156 lsat" is gonna have a hell of a time. His best bet might be Appalachian School of Law. I would like to see statistics on who doesn get into these schools. There are law school admissions chances calculators online. I apologize for being a bit clumsy in my original post. I see evidence that many people who graduate from 3rd and 4th tier law schools find employment within a reasonable period of time after their graduating. Something like 96% from Yale and Harvard and 70% from Appalachian School of Law which is on the bottom of the list. I don't know why those who don't find employment don't find employment. The reason that I mentioned the career services being a possibility is because for example I know a guy that recently graduated from one of the universites here in the state of South Carolina and he would not go to the career services people when he graduated, which he should have because its a free service that they are supposed to provide to you, they are supposed to help line him up with a job in the field in which he has received his degree. I can't tell you why the others don't find employment.


This is my favorite thread since AreYouInsane's forum. If you haven't had a chance take a look at this one.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=100

Whenever I feel the need for advice on how to become a lawyer I also look to the world-renowned filmmaker Robert Rodriguez. With a filmography that includes Spy Kids 1-4 and the widely-celebrated From Duck 'til Dawn, what could possibly wrong with this advice? I myself also often consider Michael Bay's philosophy when it comes to accomplishing your dreams: if there is something in the way of your dreams, blow it up in a huge explosion, just make sure there is a hot girl just out of frame.


Uh, I really like this game. How about Brian Levant, with such gems as Snow Dogs and Beethoven? Seems like the real way to pursue your dreams is to buy a dog - or 8 - that have hi-larious hijinks. Maybe you can even dress it up in a suit and have it sit first chair when you're a bigtime litigator? "I fought the law, and the dog won"???

OP- you have no trouble snagging HYS as long as they've stopped requiring coherent, grammatically-correct writing in their applications.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby annyong » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:39 pm

kblackwell20 wrote:I would like the opportunity to clarify what I mean. What I meant to say was "As soon as you think you are a lawyer your that". I am using an idea that filmmaker Robert Rodriguez has used in film encouraging people to go into the profession of filmmaking. He believed that people like him had been led to believe that being a filmmaker was more difficult than it actually was. Just because someones numbers are a little low does not mean that they are not cut out to be an attorney. I did not volunteer what my grades were so none of you know whether or not I could make it in to Harvard or Yale. The reality is that I could. I believe that if a person sets their mind to something that they can accomplish anything.

People can accomplish Harvard and Yale if they set their minds to having a stellar GPA and LSAT score, and then have both the work ethic and the intelligence to pull it off. Otherwise, no amount of "setting your mind" is going to get you there, and that would apply to other great schools and about everything else in life as well, regardless of the philosophy that you adhere to.

If someone's numbers are "a little low", they can be an attorney - that's part of the problem. You can find a law school to go to, but that doesn't mean you should go. You should also be wary of these employment statistics because they tell you nothing about if that person actually needed a JD to get that job or if they got a job they remotely wanted or will get them remotely close to paying off 100k+ in debt.

But to the actual issue, of you want to practice in SC, USC law is your best bet, almost all practicing attorneys in SC have a degree from there. Charleston may be on its way to saying the same in a few years, who knows, but the person who brought up their ability to offer scholarship money and networking opportunities makes a good point - The problem of one not offering "specialization" or a dual degree or whatever is incredibly small in comparison to that. Even in looking at USC, you should think very seriously about going unless you have a scholarship offer or connections for the job market, debt is debt, being able to say you're a lawyer isn't going to erase that if you can't get a job that will pay it back.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby WhoIsDonDraper » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:45 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:
WhoIsDonDraper wrote:
kblackwell20 wrote:I would like the opportunity to clarify what I mean. What I meant to say was "As soon as you think you are a lawyer your that". I am using an idea that filmmaker Robert Rodriguez has used in film encouraging people to go into the profession of filmmaking. He believed that people like him had been led to believe that being a filmmaker was more difficult than it actually was. Just because someones numbers are a little low does not mean that they are not cut out to be an attorney. I did not volunteer what my grades were so none of you know whether or not I could make it in to Harvard or Yale. The reality is that I could. I believe that if a person sets their mind to something that they can accomplish anything. The reason that I wrote something about Charleston's tuition being cheap is because it is a private school and its tuition is about the same as the public law school in the state and private school tuitions tend to be more expensive. I would say that the drawbacks to attending Charleston would be that to my knowledge they only offer the standard Juris Doctor program. I don't think that you can concentrate you degree in any specific area of law such as intellectual property law. Another drawback would be that there are no dual degrees offered at Charleston. I think that all of these schools are good schools because they have to pass strict requirements set by the ABA to receive. There are not as many drawbacks to South Carolina Law. You have more options available. This guy that we are talking about though "2.86 gpa/156 lsat" is gonna have a hell of a time. His best bet might be Appalachian School of Law. I would like to see statistics on who doesn get into these schools. There are law school admissions chances calculators online. I apologize for being a bit clumsy in my original post. I see evidence that many people who graduate from 3rd and 4th tier law schools find employment within a reasonable period of time after their graduating. Something like 96% from Yale and Harvard and 70% from Appalachian School of Law which is on the bottom of the list. I don't know why those who don't find employment don't find employment. The reason that I mentioned the career services being a possibility is because for example I know a guy that recently graduated from one of the universites here in the state of South Carolina and he would not go to the career services people when he graduated, which he should have because its a free service that they are supposed to provide to you, they are supposed to help line him up with a job in the field in which he has received his degree. I can't tell you why the others don't find employment.


This is my favorite thread since AreYouInsane's forum. If you haven't had a chance take a look at this one.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=157855&start=100

Whenever I feel the need for advice on how to become a lawyer I also look to the world-renowned filmmaker Robert Rodriguez. With a filmography that includes Spy Kids 1-4 and the widely-celebrated From Duck 'til Dawn, what could possibly wrong with this advice? I myself also often consider Michael Bay's philosophy when it comes to accomplishing your dreams: if there is something in the way of your dreams, blow it up in a huge explosion, just make sure there is a hot girl just out of frame.


Uh, I really like this game. How about Brian Levant, with such gems as Snow Dogs and Beethoven? Seems like the real way to pursue your dreams is to buy a dog - or 8 - that have hi-larious hijinks. Maybe you can even dress it up in a suit and have it sit first chair when you're a bigtime litigator? "I fought the law, and the dog won"???

OP- you have no trouble snagging HYS as long as they've stopped requiring coherent, grammatically-correct writing in their applications.


That is a wonderful idea for a film. It could be a sequel to the Air Bud movies. This time Air Bud hits a different kind of court. This time he takes a bite out of the law.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby kblackwell20 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:45 pm

What determines whether a person should be lawyer or not is have they passed the required courses and have they passed the bar. If you have done that, then by law you are a lawyer. And I personally think that if a person can do that, then they should be a lawyer, whether they have earned high marks or not.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby Wade LeBosh » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:01 pm

I've never heard of Charleston School of Law, but if it would accept you with that GPA and LSAT it probably isn't worth attending.

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby KingMenes » Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:04 pm

Green Crayons wrote:
GentlemanJim wrote:"and not to sound conceded, but I realized I am truly a lot smarter than a lot of people in our work force these days"

^^ Did no one else pick up on this? LMAO.
Yeah, I caught that. I thought maybe a troll, but what the hell. Future Charleston School of Law students probably browse these forums just like everyone else. They might learn something or another.


I caught that too, but the OP qualified the statement by comparing their own intelligence to a lot of people in the South Carolina workforce. For that reason, I think everyone gave OP a pass. Not sure what that says about the South Carolina workforce though.....:|

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Re: Charleston School of Law- 2.82 GPA/156 LSAT

Postby JoeFish » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:39 pm

KingMenes wrote:
Green Crayons wrote:
GentlemanJim wrote:"and not to sound conceded, but I realized I am truly a lot smarter than a lot of people in our work force these days"

^^ Did no one else pick up on this? LMAO.
Yeah, I caught that. I thought maybe a troll, but what the hell. Future Charleston School of Law students probably browse these forums just like everyone else. They might learn something or another.


I caught that too, but the OP qualified the statement by comparing their own intelligence to a lot of people in the South Carolina workforce. For that reason, I think everyone gave OP a pass. Not sure what that says about the South Carolina workforce though.....:|


Yeah, to elaborate on another particular poster in this thread...

kblackwell20 wrote:I did not volunteer what my grades were so none of you know whether or not I could make it in to Harvard or Yale. The reality is that I could.


If anything on your application to HYS looks like:
kblackwell20 wrote:As soon as you think you are a lawyer your that
or
kblackwell20 wrote:Just because someones numbers are a little low
or
kblackwell20 wrote:I believe that if a person sets their mind to something that they can accomplish anything
or
kblackwell20 wrote:I don't think that you can concentrate you degree in any specific area
or
kblackwell20 wrote:I would like to see statistics on who doesn get into these schools
or
kblackwell20 wrote:I know a guy that recently graduated from one of the universites here
or
kblackwell wrote:I'm working hard to make as good a gpa as I can.
or God forbid
kblackwell wrote:Yes I work a part time job and am definately getting my education

or anything else in either post... well...
...not so much...




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