Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby Panther7 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:46 pm

Unethical. You'd probably just get straight dings.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby Yimbeezy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:48 pm

Peter North wrote:Disclaimer: I ask that everyone treat the following scenario as nothing but a hypothetical.

Say for example this applicant was was targeting HYS or at best some of the T14s. We all know the top tier schools have a large endowment fund and they're transparently notorious for soliciting funds from distinguished alumnis and third party investors alike.

Having said that, would it be inappropriate if an applicant were to offer a 'substantial' sum upfront during the application consideration stages?. In other words, say for instance this applicant had some wealthy benefactors (eg: Fortune 500 executive parent, the Saudi Royal Family, etc), and they were prepared to contribute to the law school's endowment fund on the condition the applicant were to become a successful candidate. How would the adcoms react to these types of propositions?

Seeking some input here. Thanks in advance.

The mafia doesn't do business where there's a paper trail, and neither should you. Quid pro quo; the american way.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby solidsnake » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:49 pm

Weren't you the poster asking in a prior thread about sexual relationships with adcomms? What are you doing -- an expose on law school admissions?

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby Panther7 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:50 pm

solidsnake wrote:Weren't you the poster asking in a prior thread about sexual relationships with adcomms? What are you doing -- an expose on law school admissions?


it's commonly referenced as a "flame" around these parts.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby autarkh » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:51 pm

This is an indirect bribe. Indirect in the sense that the money would be going to the endowment rather than lining the adcomm's pockets. As the previous poster indicated, it would be unethical and imprudent. Maybe such "up front donations" take place. And maybe they affect admissions decisions. But if they do, they most likely happen informally, and with considerable care to avoid creating a paper trail.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby cubswin » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:54 pm

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:04 pm

Peter North wrote:Disclaimer: I ask that everyone treat the following scenario as nothing but a hypothetical.

Say for example this applicant was was targeting HYS or at best some of the T14s. We all know the top tier schools have a large endowment fund and they're transparently notorious for soliciting funds from distinguished alumnis and third party investors alike.

Having said that, would it be inappropriate if an applicant were to offer a 'substantial' sum upfront during the application consideration stages?. In other words, say for instance this applicant had some wealthy benefactors (eg: Fortune 500 executive parent, the Saudi Royal Family, etc), and they were prepared to contribute to the law school's endowment fund on the condition the applicant were to become a successful candidate. How would the adcoms react to these types of propositions?

Seeking some input here. Thanks in advance.


Hypothetically, I would be surprised that someone in that position would not have better knowledge of how to do these things.

There are two realistic options.

A) Make sure that the adcoms know for a fact that you would pay 100% sticker price if admitted (For example, express that the school in your number 1 choice - even if it isnt't - and that you would go, regardless of scholarship, if admitted)

or

B) Explain to you parents that they need to donate money to one of the "naming opportunities" at the law school (For example, you could get the entire law school named after you, the library named after you, offices named after you, courtyards, etc. etc. - schools would recognize your name, especially if you had to include your parents' names on the application)

If you decide A - which is the far more common route (some schools offer binding EA's which mean the same thing) - then it's probably too late to do that this cycle.

If you decide B, time is running out.

I hoped that helped.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby MURPH » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:28 am

Obviously you wouldn't donate through the adcoms. You donate to the president of the alumni association or through the dean of the law school and they would pressure the adcoms for you. You shouldn't ever need to speak to the adcoms. It would probably be cheaper just to bribe the adcom's secretary.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby cardnal124 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:44 am

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Whats so wrong with a little bribery? Same as a tip - just trying to get better service.

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Re: Would this be an "inappropriate proposition" to the adcom?

Postby njskatchmo » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:23 am

I don't think the school would risk it. What if that were to come out?




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