LSAT AND GMAT?

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby icydash » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:04 am

JustDude wrote:Dude, Can I post this on JDU???.. Man, that would be trollism in style.


I don't know what JDU is or even what you're getting at here.... You still haven't responded to anything I said in my post/backed up any of your ridiculous claims. It's not even worth fighting with you about this anymore. You post some ridiculous comment with nothing to back it up, I rebut with one or two examples backing up my position, you post something completely random, and then we go back to the beginning. I hope you're not like this in law school.

JustDude wrote:Also, I didnt say you should not go into business law with JD. I just said you dont really need JD/MBA degree.

No one is even talking about needing a JD/MBA for business law. All I've been saying this entire thread is pursuing a JD/MBA can potentially be a very useful strategy depending on your long term goals...and all you've seemed to reply is "omigosh no way, no how, MBAs aren't real knowledge, they're useless for everything, you're going to be sad, no one on earth ever has or ever will use this degree combo for anything, the end." .....and when asked to back ANY of that up, you call my post a troll, and continue to provide 0 proof of anything you've said thus far in this thread.

JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:Read the last 3 pages of posts. No, this is not 100%, or even really 70% true.


You need to look deep inside yourself. You only defend this idiocy because you want to get this degree. This gives you the false sense of security and you enjoy it. But you will be facing consequenses 4 years later. You still will be decieving yourself doing doc review that MBA helped you, but not for long.


P.S. I'm not getting this degree. I don't want to get/plan on getting this degree. I defend it because it is genuinely useful for some people depending on their career path.

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby hsprophet » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:41 am

JustDude wrote:If it is not a top school, you will be unemployed regardless wether it is just MBA or JD or JD/MBA combined

Statement = False

My MBA is not from a top school and I have a job. And no, I didn't already have the job when I got the degree.

JustDude wrote:On the technical side: Unless you have developed a new rocket, written out a full technical documentation for it (all the engines, fuels, cargo compartment, etc), had it critiqued by five or six real rocket scientists while doing a live [[computer]] simulation, had it critiqued by classmates and professors, tweaked it, gotten funded, dealt with cosmonauts, prototyped/built your rocket, been put in a REAL drivers seat as an astronaut, and made money for you and your investors.... then the Masters in Rocket Sciences can do a lot for you. I suspect most people have not gone through this process. These classes also consist of physics, where each electron revolves around a REAL nucleus that actually exists. You have to analyze the universe as a whole, its progress to date, its leadership, its strategy(s), write lengthy pointless papers and recommendations for the future.

You obviously don't know anything about rockets. My job is to develop and oversee manufacturing processes for rocket motors. I know rockets.

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby englawyer » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:45 am

JustDude wrote:Thats stupid. Period. Prove bolded.


sure. this year's Harvard JD/MBA class has roughly the following breakdown of careers, showing that the degree is versatile and accepted in the marketplace by a number of employers:

3-4 law firm
3-4 consulting
2 i-banking
2 hedge-fund

the hedge-fund folks in particular got their job BECAUSE of the jd/mba. there are less than 400 people that have done the joint degree in the world from Harvard, and the alumni network is very receptive and willing to help out current students. That alumni network is far more exclusive than even YLS, with less than 10 graduates each year. There are also a substantial number of them in both the HF and private equity worlds.

pre-ITE, virtually all JD/MBA went into private equity, the most desirable field post MBA. I am sure if the employers were using your logic, they would have hired straight MBA students instead, and they easily could have picked some up from HBS because most of the class was seeking those jobs but did not get them.

if you want evidence of a firm hiring jd/mba specifically, check out this page on Goodwin Procter's website:

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby CordeliusX » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:08 am

Might as well ask: how realistic is it to get into law school, then apply for MBA during the first or second year? I'm assuming you'd have an "in"

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby englawyer » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:31 pm

CordeliusX wrote:Might as well ask: how realistic is it to get into law school, then apply for MBA during the first or second year? I'm assuming you'd have an "in"


you have an advantage, but not a guaranteed in. this usually depends on the relative "prestige" of the two programs. ex at NYU, the law school is considered better than the business school, so apparently JD-> MBA is a "take the gmat and get 700" type deal. Similarly, at Yale, you don't have to submit LOR etc. for the MBA application (if you are a 1L).

you may want to read through this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=97340

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby JustDude » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:19 am

englawyer wrote:
JustDude wrote:Thats stupid. Period. Prove bolded.


sure. this year's Harvard JD/MBA class has roughly the following breakdown of careers, showing that the degree is versatile and accepted in the marketplace by a number of employers:

3-4 law firm
3-4 consulting
2 i-banking
2 hedge-fund

the hedge-fund folks in particular got their job BECAUSE of the jd/mba. there are less than 400 people that have done the joint degree in the world from Harvard, and the alumni network is very receptive and willing to help out current students. That alumni network is far more exclusive than even YLS, with less than 10 graduates each year. There are also a substantial number of them in both the HF and private equity worlds.

pre-ITE, virtually all JD/MBA went into private equity, the most desirable field post MBA. I am sure if the employers were using your logic, they would have hired straight MBA students instead, and they easily could have picked some up from HBS because most of the class was seeking those jobs but did not get them.

if you want evidence of a firm hiring jd/mba specifically, check out this page on Goodwin Procter's website:

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No effing way. A harvard grad found a job in banking??? Wow... And How many harvard MAB or JD can get similar job???!?!?>?!?!

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby icydash » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:02 am

JustDude wrote:
englawyer wrote:
JustDude wrote:Thats stupid. Period. Prove bolded.


sure. this year's Harvard JD/MBA class has roughly the following breakdown of careers, showing that the degree is versatile and accepted in the marketplace by a number of employers:

3-4 law firm
3-4 consulting
2 i-banking
2 hedge-fund

the hedge-fund folks in particular got their job BECAUSE of the jd/mba. there are less than 400 people that have done the joint degree in the world from Harvard, and the alumni network is very receptive and willing to help out current students. That alumni network is far more exclusive than even YLS, with less than 10 graduates each year. There are also a substantial number of them in both the HF and private equity worlds.

pre-ITE, virtually all JD/MBA went into private equity, the most desirable field post MBA. I am sure if the employers were using your logic, they would have hired straight MBA students instead, and they easily could have picked some up from HBS because most of the class was seeking those jobs but did not get them.

if you want evidence of a firm hiring jd/mba specifically, check out this page on Goodwin Procter's website:

--LinkRemoved--





No effing way. A harvard grad found a job in banking??? Wow... And How many harvard MAB or JD can get similar job???!?!?>?!?!


What we've been doing clearly isn't working. Since anything we put up proving our point, you just say "no way" to without backing up anything you're saying, we're going to do this the way it's done in real life; the real legal way:
We're the defense. We made a point (several actually with evidence) that you disagree with (that the MBA/JD is a useful degree combination in many circumstances depending on your career goals). It's your responsibility as the prosecution to prove we're wrong. Just like in real life, it's the not the defenses responsibility to prove we didn't break the law; it's the prosecutions responsability to prove we did.

In other words, since you seem to blatantly disregard all our evidence/comments without actually having any reason to or coming up with any proof showing otherwise, we're trying a new approach: We're right until you prove us wrong.

If you think it's such a useless degree combination, prove it. Thus far, you've shown no proof of anything backing up a single point you've made.

You won't. The end.

P.S. Oh yeah just some more light reading on people who have done amazing things with JD/MBAs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_JD/MBAs ... It clearly doesn't hurt to have, given everyone on this list is a partner, CEO, executive of some kind or assistant to the president.

/thread.

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby JustDude » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:23 am

icydash wrote:
What we've been doing clearly isn't working. Since anything we put up proving our point, you just say "no way" to without backing up anything you're saying, we're going to do this the way it's done in real life; the real legal way:
We're the defense. We made a point (several actually with evidence) that you disagree with (that the MBA/JD is a useful degree combination in many circumstances depending on your career goals). It's your responsibility as the prosecution to prove we're wrong. Just like in real life, it's the not the defenses responsibility to prove we didn't break the law; it's the prosecutions responsability to prove we did.

In other words, since you seem to blatantly disregard all our evidence/comments without actually having any reason to or coming up with any proof showing otherwise, we're trying a new approach: We're right until you prove us wrong.




You are just 22 and already so boring??? You dont get much tail, do you??

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby icydash » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:31 am

JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:
What we've been doing clearly isn't working. Since anything we put up proving our point, you just say "no way" to without backing up anything you're saying, we're going to do this the way it's done in real life; the real legal way:
We're the defense. We made a point (several actually with evidence) that you disagree with (that the MBA/JD is a useful degree combination in many circumstances depending on your career goals). It's your responsibility as the prosecution to prove we're wrong. Just like in real life, it's the not the defenses responsibility to prove we didn't break the law; it's the prosecutions responsability to prove we did.

In other words, since you seem to blatantly disregard all our evidence/comments without actually having any reason to or coming up with any proof showing otherwise, we're trying a new approach: We're right until you prove us wrong.




You are just 22 and already so boring??? You dont get much tail, do you??


Case. Point. End thread.

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby JustDude » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:43 am

icydash wrote:
JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:
What we've been doing clearly isn't working. Since anything we put up proving our point, you just say "no way" to without backing up anything you're saying, we're going to do this the way it's done in real life; the real legal way:
We're the defense. We made a point (several actually with evidence) that you disagree with (that the MBA/JD is a useful degree combination in many circumstances depending on your career goals). It's your responsibility as the prosecution to prove we're wrong. Just like in real life, it's the not the defenses responsibility to prove we didn't break the law; it's the prosecutions responsability to prove we did.

In other words, since you seem to blatantly disregard all our evidence/comments without actually having any reason to or coming up with any proof showing otherwise, we're trying a new approach: We're right until you prove us wrong.




You are just 22 and already so boring??? You dont get much tail, do you??


Case. Point. End thread.




Case in Point??? getting ready to your Bain interview??

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby icydash » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:52 am

JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:
JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:
What we've been doing clearly isn't working. Since anything we put up proving our point, you just say "no way" to without backing up anything you're saying, we're going to do this the way it's done in real life; the real legal way:
We're the defense. We made a point (several actually with evidence) that you disagree with (that the MBA/JD is a useful degree combination in many circumstances depending on your career goals). It's your responsibility as the prosecution to prove we're wrong. Just like in real life, it's the not the defenses responsibility to prove we didn't break the law; it's the prosecutions responsability to prove we did.

In other words, since you seem to blatantly disregard all our evidence/comments without actually having any reason to or coming up with any proof showing otherwise, we're trying a new approach: We're right until you prove us wrong.




You are just 22 and already so boring??? You dont get much tail, do you??


Case. Point. End thread.




Case in Point??? getting ready to your Bain interview??

You just continue to prove my point about you over and over. It's actually pretty funny.

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby JustDude » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:07 am

icydash wrote:You just continue to prove my point about you over and over. It's actually pretty funny.


at least I am consistent. You incoherent blaberring is nowhere close

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby icydash » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:14 am

JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:You just continue to prove my point about you over and over. It's actually pretty funny.


at least I am consistent. You incoherent blaberring is nowhere close

Actually, my blaberring has been extremely consistent and coherent throughout the entire thread.

JustDude wrote:You incoherent blaberring is nowhere close

I also use correct grammar.

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby JustDude » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:17 am

icydash wrote:
JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:You just continue to prove my point about you over and over. It's actually pretty funny.


at least I am consistent. You incoherent blaberring is nowhere close

Actually, my blaberring has been extremely consistent and coherent throughout the entire thread.



Says Who??? Your mom??? Is she milf???

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Re: LSAT AND GMAT?

Postby icydash » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:27 am

JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:
JustDude wrote:
icydash wrote:You just continue to prove my point about you over and over. It's actually pretty funny.


at least I am consistent. You incoherent blaberring is nowhere close

Actually, my blaberring has been extremely consistent and coherent throughout the entire thread.



Says Who??? Your mom??? Is she milf???


My mom, and everyone else agreeing with me throughout the entire thread....

...and of course she's a milf, how do you think I got to be so good-looking? It came from somewhere....




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