helvidius2010 wrote:I see this thread has become the UT versus the entire T14 thread...
As I mentioned earlier, there is a pro-UT bias among Texas attorneys, but it only reaches so far. Based on what I have seen splitting for 2 summers at various Texas firms, that bias probably catapults UT above CG and maybe DN. But I do not think the average Texas attorney sees UT as better than the T10. A student with Texas ties would likely have better BigLaw chances from a T10, including Berkeley.
Of course each individual may have their own reasons (money, SO, etc.) justifying drawing the line deeper into the T14. In retrospect, I am glad I chose UT because it enabled me to learn the reputations and personalities of the local firms before interviewing. This in turn helped me find a group that I really like, and I think that will make it much easier to put up with the drawbacks of BigLaw.
I think you've hit on the real advantage to going to UT over a T-14. Learning the personalities of the firms is important, and from across the country with no contact-- clearly that's not a possibility.
I faced the Cornell/UT decision and I picked Cornell. Cornell gave me more financial aid than UT did, so money wise for me it was about $8K difference per year (considering UT's recent tuition hikes). My SO though is the primary reason that Cornell was a better fit for us-- full disclosure-- as just me I would have picked UT.
Going through the OCI process last fall the things I noted are...
1) There are not a lot of Cornell grads in Texas, so when you do meet with alum, and they think you are actually interested in living in Texas, they are VERY excited about it and will do whatever they can to get you the job. (I'm sure this isn't unique, but it was nice to have people seem so willing to help you out). I got really good responses from my mass mailings to Texas firms, and got multiple callbacks that way, so the limited TX representation at OCI wasn't an issue really.
2) You have to answer more questions on your motives for attending school so far away from Texas. I never got a "why Cornell over UT" but I got plenty of, why did you move so far away? I think this might hold true for more than just Cornell. Texans are just naturally suspicious of anyone EVER leaving the state. A partner I interviewed with told me he had partners ask him "Why did you leave Texas to go to Yale?" However, once I assured them I had every intention of coming back, it became a moot point.
3) My summer jobs at elite firms in TX are comprised of more than 50% T-14 students. There are a couple from almost T-14 schools such as Vandy and then the rest are from Texas schools (SMU and UH seem to make strong showings in their home cities). I actually was really shocked that not more were from UT. I figured I'd be in a class with about 2/3 UT students. I'm wondering if this is an ITE phenomenon though.
4) I felt like several firms were more interested in me because I would add to their "school diversity" of their summer class.
I guess I don't really have a point
. But, I think if someone has Texas ties and wants for any reason to go to a T-14 over Texas it won't hurt them. If you don't have Texas ties and think you want to end up there for some reason--then yeah go to UT.