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Is 165 LSAT score sufficient?
Hi there,
I am an international student from Europe and would like to go to an Ivy League Law School for a JD program. I hold a bachelor's degree in liberal arts.
I just got back a 165 score on the June LSAT (93% percentile).
How good is this score to get into the top JD programs?
If not sufficient, I would consider taking it again or apply for some other schools, but which ones would be happy with international students with this score?
Thanks for your advice!
I am an international student from Europe and would like to go to an Ivy League Law School for a JD program. I hold a bachelor's degree in liberal arts.
I just got back a 165 score on the June LSAT (93% percentile).
How good is this score to get into the top JD programs?
If not sufficient, I would consider taking it again or apply for some other schools, but which ones would be happy with international students with this score?
Thanks for your advice!
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I would say high 160s for lower T14, low 170s for middle T14, and mid 170s for places like yale and harvard. check out lawschoolnumbers.com to look at students who have been admitted to each school and their numbers. also look at each schools median lsat score, which you can do at the us news ranking. if you are above the median your chances will be good. if you are at the 75th percentile you´ll be even better. you can also look at last years rankings and the corresponding scores on this site.
Of the T14, only Yale and Duke actually publish a breakdown of their applicant profiles.
Yale:
1 of 185 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/160-164 was admitted
15 of 306 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/165-169 was admitted
Duke:
24 of 401 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/160-164 was admitted
134 of 491 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/165-169 was admitted.
So it is possible for you to get into a T14 with a 165. The tendency is to attribute those occurences to URM status, but the truth is that we don't know for sure whether that is the case. You would be doing yourself a great disservice if you did not at least apply.
Of course it would be better for you to retake the LSAT and score 170+. A better LSAT score would greatly increase your chances of getting into a T14.
Yale:
1 of 185 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/160-164 was admitted
15 of 306 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/165-169 was admitted
Duke:
24 of 401 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/160-164 was admitted
134 of 491 applicants with a 3.5-3.74/165-169 was admitted.
So it is possible for you to get into a T14 with a 165. The tendency is to attribute those occurences to URM status, but the truth is that we don't know for sure whether that is the case. You would be doing yourself a great disservice if you did not at least apply.
Of course it would be better for you to retake the LSAT and score 170+. A better LSAT score would greatly increase your chances of getting into a T14.
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I don't know the percentage admitted, but here's the percentage of each school from a foreign nation-
Yale-3.8
Stanford-2.8%
Harvard-4.1%
NYU-3.7%
Columbia-9.2%
Chicago-0.8%
Penn-4.6%
Berkeley-0.0%
Michigan-3.6%
Duke-1.0%
UVa-0.5%
NU-4.2%
Cornell-7.5%
GTown-3.2%
There seem to be three distinct tiers of 'friendliness' toward international students, though there are obviously several factors at work here. I just hope you aren't intent on Berkeley.
Tier 1: Columbia and Cornell
Tier 2: Yale, Stanford, Harvard, NYU, Michigan, Northwestern, GTown
Tier 3: Chicago, Berkeley, Duke, UVa
Yale-3.8
Stanford-2.8%
Harvard-4.1%
NYU-3.7%
Columbia-9.2%
Chicago-0.8%
Penn-4.6%
Berkeley-0.0%
Michigan-3.6%
Duke-1.0%
UVa-0.5%
NU-4.2%
Cornell-7.5%
GTown-3.2%
There seem to be three distinct tiers of 'friendliness' toward international students, though there are obviously several factors at work here. I just hope you aren't intent on Berkeley.
Tier 1: Columbia and Cornell
Tier 2: Yale, Stanford, Harvard, NYU, Michigan, Northwestern, GTown
Tier 3: Chicago, Berkeley, Duke, UVa
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