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bitlrc wrote:these other posters are correct, there is an ethical problem caused by your refusal to maintain full time student status through the entire semester, if indeed that is a condition of the scholarship. maybe i can draw an analogy:

let's say you took your car to a repairman, and he promised to fix your fix 4 parts of your car. you pay him in full under the condition that he fix all 4 parts. after a while, the repairman decided he no longer wanted to complete the work, so he fixed 2 parts and then kept all your money. not very ethical, right? he may have "earned" your money because his previous work record was positive and he had came highly recommended, but earning the money was still contingent upon his completion of the work.

i understand it's the biggest stretch for an analogy that has ever been laid out. regardless, if you do not stay within the terms of the scholarship, even though you earned it and your adviser said it was the right thing to do, you would still be in violation of the terms of the scholarship and, if someone caught on, it would most likely be revoked.

that said, if you're confident you get away with it and you're willing to take the risk then try it out. i'm not saying you'll definitely get caught, i'm just saying if someone noticed what happened and cared enough about it, you probably would have to pay back a portion of the scholarship and it may show up somewhere on your records when you apply to law school (which i assume, considering the site this was posted on, is your ultimate reasoning behind the post).

shadowfrost000 wrote:

bissey wrote:

JessicaTiger wrote:You asked a question. We responded. You didn't like the answer, so you get pissy.

It is pretty obvious by the name calling and insults you have thrown around that you are just looking for people to affirm the underhanded maneuver you are trying to pull, not looking for actual advice. Plenty of people, myself included, have withdrawn from classes- but I am sure that few to none of us have enrolled in a class purposely to withdraw. That is the ethics issue the responders are having. You essentially are lying to whoever is giving you the scholarship. Plus, if these classes are ones that having waiting lists, you are cheating someone out of a spot in a class that they actually need so you can enroll it and drop it to get undeserved scholarship money.

Not to mention, your final transcripts go to your law school- 2+ W's looks real shady. Especially in the last semester. Law schools see that and know you are someone who was looking to slack off in their last semester.

Next time you want to ask advice, do it because you want advice. Not because you are looking to affirm your dishonesty-- dishonesty that even you were feeling shaky about. If you were 100% confident in what you were doing, you wouldn't have posted here.

EDIT: You did ask for ethics. You said "Would this cause any problems?" Ethics is a problem, especially in this industry.

Pissy? I didn't like the answer because they were not answers to my question. The "problems" I was concerned about is how it would look to law schools. All the replies, until the end, were about ethics, something I am unconcerned about because I KNOW it is not unethical. I'm not looking for opinions on ethics, so that can stop. And yes, I am not looking for advice. I am looking for opinions on how a withdrawal would affect my applications. I didn't enroll to withdrawal, but my adviser made me aware of my options and I am considering them.

What name calling and insults are you referring to? I called one poster asshole because he said, "If there is a crack in the system at said poorly run state school that allows you to get away with it, more power to you, but don't pretend like you aren't scamming the system." I'm not scamming anyone as I have earned a scholarship that allows me to withdraw. That comment was mean spirited and my response was not excessive.

If you ask a question that can only be answered based on speculation, you're going to get a lot of unhelpful answers.

PS. You're the one who got upset because someone disagreed with your intended actions. I don't think what you're proposing is unethical, but I don't think you take criticism very well either.

bissey wrote:

shadowfrost000 wrote:

bissey wrote:

JessicaTiger wrote:You asked a question. We responded. You didn't like the answer, so you get pissy.

It is pretty obvious by the name calling and insults you have thrown around that you are just looking for people to affirm the underhanded maneuver you are trying to pull, not looking for actual advice. Plenty of people, myself included, have withdrawn from classes- but I am sure that few to none of us have enrolled in a class purposely to withdraw. That is the ethics issue the responders are having. You essentially are lying to whoever is giving you the scholarship. Plus, if these classes are ones that having waiting lists, you are cheating someone out of a spot in a class that they actually need so you can enroll it and drop it to get undeserved scholarship money.

Not to mention, your final transcripts go to your law school- 2+ W's looks real shady. Especially in the last semester. Law schools see that and know you are someone who was looking to slack off in their last semester.

Next time you want to ask advice, do it because you want advice. Not because you are looking to affirm your dishonesty-- dishonesty that even you were feeling shaky about. If you were 100% confident in what you were doing, you wouldn't have posted here.

EDIT: You did ask for ethics. You said "Would this cause any problems?" Ethics is a problem, especially in this industry.

Pissy? I didn't like the answer because they were not answers to my question. The "problems" I was concerned about is how it would look to law schools. All the replies, until the end, were about ethics, something I am unconcerned about because I KNOW it is not unethical. I'm not looking for opinions on ethics, so that can stop. And yes, I am not looking for advice. I am looking for opinions on how a withdrawal would affect my applications. I didn't enroll to withdrawal, but my adviser made me aware of my options and I am considering them.

What name calling and insults are you referring to? I called one poster asshole because he said, "If there is a crack in the system at said poorly run state school that allows you to get away with it, more power to you, but don't pretend like you aren't scamming the system." I'm not scamming anyone as I have earned a scholarship that allows me to withdraw. That comment was mean spirited and my response was not excessive.

If you ask a question that can only be answered based on speculation, you're going to get a lot of unhelpful answers.

PS. You're the one who got upset because someone disagreed with your intended actions. I don't think what you're proposing is unethical, but I don't think you take criticism very well either.

I got a couple of helpful posts, between all of the unnecessary posts. I didn't get upset, I only told them I am not interested about the ethics of the situation. If someone said don't do it because x, y, z, I would say ok, that sounds like a legitimate problem that could arise, maybe I wont! All I got was think of the starving children!!!

anyway, I'm over it.

bissey wrote:

kn6542 wrote:

bissey wrote:

JessicaTiger wrote:You asked a question. We responded. You didn't like the answer, so you get pissy.

It is pretty obvious by the name calling and insults you have thrown around that you are just looking for people to affirm the underhanded maneuver you are trying to pull, not looking for actual advice. Plenty of people, myself included, have withdrawn from classes- but I am sure that few to none of us have enrolled in a class purposely to withdraw. That is the ethics issue the responders are having. You essentially are lying to whoever is giving you the scholarship. Plus, if these classes are ones that having waiting lists, you are cheating someone out of a spot in a class that they actually need so you can enroll it and drop it to get undeserved scholarship money.

Not to mention, your final transcripts go to your law school- 2+ W's looks real shady. Especially in the last semester. Law schools see that and know you are someone who was looking to slack off in their last semester.

Next time you want to ask advice, do it because you want advice. Not because you are looking to affirm your dishonesty-- dishonesty that even you were feeling shaky about. If you were 100% confident in what you were doing, you wouldn't have posted here.

EDIT: You did ask for ethics. You said "Would this cause any problems?" Ethics is a problem, especially in this industry.

Pissy? I didn't like the answer because they were not answers to my question. The "problems" I was concerned about is how it would look to law schools. All the replies, until the end, were about ethics, something I am unconcerned about because I KNOW it is not unethical. I'm not looking for opinions on ethics, so that can stop. And yes, I am not looking for advice. I am looking for opinions on how a withdrawal would affect my applications. I didn't enroll to withdrawal, but my adviser made me aware of my options and I am considering them.

What name calling and insults are you referring to? I called one poster asshole because he said, "If there is a crack in the system at said poorly run state school that allows you to get away with it, more power to you, but don't pretend like you aren't scamming the system." I'm not scamming anyone as I have earned a scholarship that allows me to withdraw. That comment was mean spirited and my response was not excessive.

Well, presumably, if there is such a crack in the system, it is a poorly run school. And I'm not a dude.

It would have helped if you asked the question with all the relevant facts from the start.

It's not a crack, retard. Holy shit. Just leave.

bissey wrote:

JessicaTiger wrote:You asked a question. We responded. You didn't like the answer, so you get pissy.

It is pretty obvious by the name calling and insults you have thrown around that you are just looking for people to affirm the underhanded maneuver you are trying to pull, not looking for actual advice. Plenty of people, myself included, have withdrawn from classes- but I am sure that few to none of us have enrolled in a class purposely to withdraw. That is the ethics issue the responders are having. You essentially are lying to whoever is giving you the scholarship. Plus, if these classes are ones that having waiting lists, you are cheating someone out of a spot in a class that they actually need so you can enroll it and drop it to get undeserved scholarship money.

Not to mention, your final transcripts go to your law school- 2+ W's looks real shady. Especially in the last semester. Law schools see that and know you are someone who was looking to slack off in their last semester.

Next time you want to ask advice, do it because you want advice. Not because you are looking to affirm your dishonesty-- dishonesty that even you were feeling shaky about. If you were 100% confident in what you were doing, you wouldn't have posted here.

EDIT: You did ask for ethics. You said "Would this cause any problems?" Ethics is a problem, especially in this industry.

Pissy? I didn't like the answer because they were not answers to my question. The "problems" I was concerned about is how it would look to law schools. All the replies, until the end, were about ethics, something I am unconcerned about because I KNOW it is not unethical. I'm not looking for opinions on ethics, so that can stop. And yes, I am not looking for advice. I am looking for opinions on how a withdrawal would affect my applications. I didn't enroll to withdrawal, but my adviser made me aware of my options and I am considering them.

What name calling and insults are you referring to? I called one poster asshole because he said, "If there is a crack in the system at said poorly run state school that allows you to get away with it, more power to you, but don't pretend like you aren't scamming the system." I'm not scamming anyone as I have earned a scholarship that allows me to withdraw. That comment was mean spirited and my response was not excessive.

JazzOne wrote:Don't you think it's unethical to take advantage of loopholes in the system?

JazzOne wrote:Don't you think it's unethical to take advantage of loopholes in the system?

JazzOne wrote:Don't you think it's unethical to take advantage of loopholes in the system?

JessicaTiger wrote:

JazzOne wrote:Don't you think it's unethical to take advantage of loopholes in the system?

Eh, yeah- that's the argument the OP doesn't want to listen to because he "knows" it is not unethical.

bissey wrote:i don't think is unethical. also, it's 1 withdrawal. one thing though: i'm not a slacker. seriously, i have had between 1-3 jobs each semester for the past 7, and this semester is no different.

i'm done here. i feel like it was a grand waste of time for all involved. thanks for the replies, even if i disagreed or said it wasn't what i am looking for.

prezidentv8 wrote:

bissey wrote:i don't think is unethical. also, it's 1 withdrawal. one thing though: i'm not a slacker. seriously, i have had between 1-3 jobs each semester for the past 7, and this semester is no different.

i'm done here. i feel like it was a grand waste of time for all involved. thanks for the replies, even if i disagreed or said it wasn't what i am looking for.

I tried man, I'm pretty sure you're gettin flamed here though.

bissey wrote:ok and just to add, i'm not "nervous" about the ethics. i wanted to know what law schools would think of a withdrawal.

peace.

bissey wrote:

prezidentv8 wrote:

bissey wrote:i don't think is unethical. also, it's 1 withdrawal. one thing though: i'm not a slacker. seriously, i have had between 1-3 jobs each semester for the past 7, and this semester is no different.

i'm done here. i feel like it was a grand waste of time for all involved. thanks for the replies, even if i disagreed or said it wasn't what i am looking for.

I tried man, I'm pretty sure you're gettin flamed here though.

lol, thanks prezidentv8. i appreciate you coming through for me. you have been officially friended.

crysmissmichelle wrote:If the school really allowed you a six credit "cushion" you wouldn't have to fake them out by first registering for the classes and then dropping them.

JazzOne wrote:Don't you think it's unethical to take advantage of loopholes in the system?