Shocking rejections

(Applications Advice, Letters of Recommendation . . . )
User avatar
bostonian
Posts: 137
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:08 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby bostonian » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:31 am

hitmon33 wrote:UCLA rejected me for undergrad with a 4.35 GPA (4th in the high school class) and 35 ACT. Also, no red flags or anything on my resume or transcript. I was from San Diego too, so everyone was just really surprised.

Many of my friends with MUCH worse scores got into the school. It was really quite bizarre. I still think about it sometimes.


4.35 and you were 4th in the class? That had to have been weighted.

APimpNamedSlickback
Posts: 1126
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:33 am

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby APimpNamedSlickback » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:36 am

kittenmittons wrote:
king3780 wrote:I tried to give a chick the shocker one time and was rejected.


Shocker is beta. Spocker is credited


roflmao

sparty11
Posts: 24
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:06 am

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby sparty11 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:37 am

I got rejected by Michigan out of high school with a 33 ACT and a 1590 SAT (out of 1600). I had like a 3.4 gpa, varsity sports, band, orchestra, Eagle Scout, the whole deal. I suspected that the teacher that wrote one of my LoRs secretly hated me. Also, I'm not a URM...that apparently counted against me. Ftl.

09042014
Posts: 18282
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:40 am

sparty11 wrote:I got rejected by Michigan out of high school with a 33 ACT and a 1590 SAT (out of 1600). I had like a 3.4 gpa, varsity sports, band, orchestra, Eagle Scout, the whole deal. I suspected that the teacher that wrote one of my LoRs secretly hated me. Also, I'm not a URM...that apparently counted against me. Ftl.



Isn't 3.4 bad?

User avatar
vanwinkle
Posts: 9740
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:02 am

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby vanwinkle » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:42 am

Desert Fox wrote:
sparty11 wrote:I got rejected by Michigan out of high school with a 33 ACT and a 1590 SAT (out of 1600). I had like a 3.4 gpa, varsity sports, band, orchestra, Eagle Scout, the whole deal. I suspected that the teacher that wrote one of my LoRs secretly hated me. Also, I'm not a URM...that apparently counted against me. Ftl.



Isn't 3.4 bad?


Yeah, but those ACT/SAT scores are the equivalent of 179 LSAT. I guess he assumed he'd do well as a splitter. Oops.

sparty11
Posts: 24
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:06 am

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby sparty11 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:44 am

lol...and I was a splitter once again for my law school apps!

User avatar
BaiAilian2013
Posts: 919
Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 4:05 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby BaiAilian2013 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:45 am

BigA wrote:No. Thanks for sharing. I'm a bit surprised his references would send letters like that though. Wouldn't you think they would just decline when the guy came to them to write a LOR, if they felt that way? Guy must be scary crazy

I would guess evil rather than crazy. Declining to write a reference is TCR when the person is lazy, inefficient, unstable, or stupid, but if someone is really and truly a sociopath, I can see the rationale behind intentionally holding them back in life.

09042014
Posts: 18282
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:48 am

sparty11 wrote:lol...and I was a splitter once again for my law school apps!


Luckily for us splitters do better at law school admissions.

BTW what kind (and how long) of work experience did you have to get that NU admit. That's some epic splitter win.

sparty11
Posts: 24
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:06 am

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby sparty11 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:58 am

Desert Fox wrote:
sparty11 wrote:lol...and I was a splitter once again for my law school apps!


Luckily for us splitters do better at law school admissions.

BTW what kind (and how long) of work experience did you have to get that NU admit. That's some epic splitter win.



3 yrs working with juvenile delinquents.

User avatar
rw2264
Posts: 314
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:59 am

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby rw2264 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:04 am

bostonian wrote:
hitmon33 wrote:UCLA rejected me for undergrad with a 4.35 GPA (4th in the high school class) and 35 ACT. Also, no red flags or anything on my resume or transcript. I was from San Diego too, so everyone was just really surprised.

Many of my friends with MUCH worse scores got into the school. It was really quite bizarre. I still think about it sometimes.


4.35 and you were 4th in the class? That had to have been weighted.



i don't know about this person's school, but at mine (also in CA) an A in an AP class was worth 5 points, a B was 4, etc. so if you got 3 As in AP classes and 3 Bs in regular classes, you got a 4.5. i got a 4.83 one year.

User avatar
hmlee
Posts: 365
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:12 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby hmlee » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:13 am

boilercat wrote:Not law school, but this is a 100% true story

I was a slacker in HS, had like a 3.5 with a lot of As but a lot of really shitty grades on my transcript. But I had a 34 ACT.

I got rejected by my state university whereas some of my classmates with similar GPAs and essays but far worse test scores got in. Mind you, this was around the time they were supposedly letting in kids with connections. (Now you know which state school I'm talking about)

One of my buddies who was a year my junior went to one of their admissions info sessions and applied the following year. He said the adcomm told the group about a 34 ACT they rejected the previous year (i.e., they were making an example out of me). He said he gave the adcomm a total mindfuck when he went up to her after the session and asked her if she was talking about me.


To this day I have a vendetta against that fucking school, because I definitely would have gone there had they not rejected my ass. Fortunately, I eventually ended up at a much better school.


Illinois rejected me too back in the day! I had a lot of fun writing out "University of Chicago" on my "where are you going to school?" comment card that I had to send to them...

gocubs2010
Posts: 73
Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:43 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby gocubs2010 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:49 am

sparty11 wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
sparty11 wrote:lol...and I was a splitter once again for my law school apps!


Luckily for us splitters do better at law school admissions.

BTW what kind (and how long) of work experience did you have to get that NU admit. That's some epic splitter win.



3 yrs working with juvenile delinquents.



building up a future client base?

User avatar
84Sunbird2000
Posts: 756
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:39 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:50 am

I'm a native Illinoisan (3.76 out of 4.0, 33 ACT, sports, academic bowl, 1st place in every regional WYSE and ICTM comp, Eagle Scout, like 4 pages of legitimate activities) and I was rejected from Yale (actually got an interview and bombed it hardcore), Northwestern and U. of Chicago, and was stupid enough not to apply to any in-between schools. Needless to say, my UG is not the strongest portion of my law school app. I still have nightmares where I replay the Yale interview over and over.

09042014
Posts: 18282
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:53 am

kwhitegocubs wrote:I'm a native Illinoisan (3.76 out of 4.0, 33 ACT, sports, academic bowl, 1st place in every regional WYSE and ICTM comp, Eagle Scout, like 4 pages of legitimate activities) and I was rejected from Yale (actually got an interview and bombed it hardcore), Northwestern and U. of Chicago, and was stupid enough not to apply to any in-between schools. Needless to say, my UG is not the strongest portion of my law school app. I still have nightmares where I replay the Yale interview over and over.


Were you on scholastic bowl?!? What year did you graduate High School. Where did you end up at for UG?

User avatar
fonzerelli
Posts: 215
Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:00 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby fonzerelli » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:54 am

Several years ago I visited a friend in LA and we went to a bar in Hollywood. I then noticed Rebecca Gayheart with a relatively small entourage of 3-4 eccentric LA hipster types. I walked over to her and said, "oh hey, I really admire your work." (note: I don't know any of her work aside from old noxema commercials) We briefly chatted and she did NOT accept my offer to buy her a drink. This was a shocking rejection because I went so far as to say I admired her shitty work. She sucks.

User avatar
84Sunbird2000
Posts: 756
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:39 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:00 am

Desert Fox wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:I'm a native Illinoisan (3.76 out of 4.0, 33 ACT, sports, academic bowl, 1st place in every regional WYSE and ICTM comp, Eagle Scout, like 4 pages of legitimate activities) and I was rejected from Yale (actually got an interview and bombed it hardcore), Northwestern and U. of Chicago, and was stupid enough not to apply to any in-between schools. Needless to say, my UG is not the strongest portion of my law school app. I still have nightmares where I replay the Yale interview over and over.


Were you on scholastic bowl?!? What year did you graduate High School. Where did you end up at for UG?


Yeah, we won regionals over a team that had won it like 16 straight years (Winnebago H.S.), but lost in sectionals. Graduated 2003. Ended up at Drake U. for a year, then Western Illinois for my degree. Yes, that's right, I'm a leatherneck! :mrgreen: I felt I got a good education there, but "directional schools" never sound good on a resume.

09042014
Posts: 18282
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:47 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 09042014 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:02 am

kwhitegocubs wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:I'm a native Illinoisan (3.76 out of 4.0, 33 ACT, sports, academic bowl, 1st place in every regional WYSE and ICTM comp, Eagle Scout, like 4 pages of legitimate activities) and I was rejected from Yale (actually got an interview and bombed it hardcore), Northwestern and U. of Chicago, and was stupid enough not to apply to any in-between schools. Needless to say, my UG is not the strongest portion of my law school app. I still have nightmares where I replay the Yale interview over and over.


Were you on scholastic bowl?!? What year did you graduate High School. Where did you end up at for UG?


Yeah, we won regionals over a team that had won it like 16 straight years (Winnebago H.S.), but lost in sectionals. Graduated 2003. Ended up at Drake U. for a year, then Western Illinois for my degree. Yes, that's right, I'm a leatherneck! :mrgreen: I felt I got a good education there, but "directional schools" never sound good on a resume.


My brother goes to Western, he likes it.

User avatar
84Sunbird2000
Posts: 756
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:39 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:06 am

Desert Fox wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
kwhitegocubs wrote:I'm a native Illinoisan (3.76 out of 4.0, 33 ACT, sports, academic bowl, 1st place in every regional WYSE and ICTM comp, Eagle Scout, like 4 pages of legitimate activities) and I was rejected from Yale (actually got an interview and bombed it hardcore), Northwestern and U. of Chicago, and was stupid enough not to apply to any in-between schools. Needless to say, my UG is not the strongest portion of my law school app. I still have nightmares where I replay the Yale interview over and over.


Were you on scholastic bowl?!? What year did you graduate High School. Where did you end up at for UG?


Yeah, we won regionals over a team that had won it like 16 straight years (Winnebago H.S.), but lost in sectionals. Graduated 2003. Ended up at Drake U. for a year, then Western Illinois for my degree. Yes, that's right, I'm a leatherneck! :mrgreen: I felt I got a good education there, but "directional schools" never sound good on a resume.


My brother goes to Western, he likes it.


Yeah, there are a lot of nice things about it - the campus is enormous for the number of students, the rec center is amazing, and it's a nice little town. The professors themselves were of a very high quality in my department (favorite professors were from Northwestern and Penn respectively). I never applied to Illinois simply because the enrollment seemed too large and made me think it would be sort of an anonymous experience, even though I'm about the biggest Fighting Illini fan around and would have loved to be in the Krush. 4-0 in the Big Ten!

User avatar
los blancos
Posts: 7116
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:18 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby los blancos » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:29 am

hmlee wrote:
boilercat wrote:Not law school, but this is a 100% true story

I was a slacker in HS, had like a 3.5 with a lot of As but a lot of really shitty grades on my transcript. But I had a 34 ACT.

I got rejected by my state university whereas some of my classmates with similar GPAs and essays but far worse test scores got in. Mind you, this was around the time they were supposedly letting in kids with connections. (Now you know which state school I'm talking about)

One of my buddies who was a year my junior went to one of their admissions info sessions and applied the following year. He said the adcomm told the group about a 34 ACT they rejected the previous year (i.e., they were making an example out of me). He said he gave the adcomm a total mindfuck when he went up to her after the session and asked her if she was talking about me.


To this day I have a vendetta against that fucking school, because I definitely would have gone there had they not rejected my ass. Fortunately, I eventually ended up at a much better school.


Illinois rejected me too back in the day! I had a lot of fun writing out "University of Chicago" on my "where are you going to school?" comment card that I had to send to them...


hahaha that's awesome. (i ended up at the school in your avatar after spending my freshman year at another big ten school). fuck illinois :mrgreen:

lots of IL natives in this thread...

User avatar
GeePee
Posts: 1273
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:35 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby GeePee » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:39 am

I got rejected from NYU (and all the top 25 UG programs I applied to, but those were less surprising) with a one-take 1480 SAT and ranked 4th from a top 30 HS. My school was in shock that I went to the TTT that I ended up at.

ShiftyOne
Posts: 52
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:43 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby ShiftyOne » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:47 am

rw2264 wrote:
bostonian wrote:
hitmon33 wrote:UCLA rejected me for undergrad with a 4.35 GPA (4th in the high school class) and 35 ACT. Also, no red flags or anything on my resume or transcript. I was from San Diego too, so everyone was just really surprised.

Many of my friends with MUCH worse scores got into the school. It was really quite bizarre. I still think about it sometimes.


4.35 and you were 4th in the class? That had to have been weighted.



i don't know about this person's school, but at mine (also in CA) an A in an AP class was worth 5 points, a B was 4, etc. so if you got 3 As in AP classes and 3 Bs in regular classes, you got a 4.5. i got a 4.83 one year.



That's how my school worked too. Ended with a 4.5 and still was only 5th in the class. It's a pretty dumb way to do it in my opinion, we ended up taking study halls and non-graded classes because normal classes would hurt our grades.

User avatar
billyez
Posts: 868
Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:19 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby billyez » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:06 am

I loved AP classes. Not exceptionally harder than normal classes, GPA boosters, and prepared you for a test that got you out of college classes. AP classes were the best decision I made in HS.

Oh, and no shocking rejections for me yet.

User avatar
Na_Swatch
Posts: 472
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:40 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby Na_Swatch » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:10 am

ShiftyOne wrote:
rw2264 wrote:
bostonian wrote:
hitmon33 wrote:UCLA rejected me for undergrad with a 4.35 GPA (4th in the high school class) and 35 ACT. Also, no red flags or anything on my resume or transcript. I was from San Diego too, so everyone was just really surprised.

Many of my friends with MUCH worse scores got into the school. It was really quite bizarre. I still think about it sometimes.


4.35 and you were 4th in the class? That had to have been weighted.



i don't know about this person's school, but at mine (also in CA) an A in an AP class was worth 5 points, a B was 4, etc. so if you got 3 As in AP classes and 3 Bs in regular classes, you got a 4.5. i got a 4.83 one year.



That's how my school worked too. Ended with a 4.5 and still was only 5th in the class. It's a pretty dumb way to do it in my opinion, we ended up taking study halls and non-graded classes because normal classes would hurt our grades.


At my Highschool (T50 public) they did it like this: AP/College Courses = 6.00, Honors = 5.00, Regular = 4.00. Taking Regular AND Honor courses hurt my GPA... I think I had like a 5.8 Junior and Senior year.

Thus shocking rejections from the T3 UGs with a 5.3+ GPA (Valedictorian Rank 1 out of 400) and 1580 LSAT + decent/good softs. Oh wait, I'm Asian, guess its not too shocking after all :lol: Things turned out fine though.

User avatar
hoopsguy6
Posts: 212
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:46 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby hoopsguy6 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:18 am

I hope everyone bragging about their 9.0 high school GPAs realize that like LSAC, any real college will re-weigh your HS gpa using their own metrics (i.e., no college cares that you took "honors geography" in high school).

User avatar
Na_Swatch
Posts: 472
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:40 pm

Re: Shocking rejections

Postby Na_Swatch » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:28 am

hoopsguy6 wrote:I hope everyone bragging about their 9.0 high school GPAs realize that like LSAC, any real college will re-weigh your HS gpa using their own metrics (i.e., no college cares that you took "honors geography" in high school).


Oh, I know our high school GPAs were clearly inflated, just providing context for some disappointing rejections. But still I did get straight A's thru 10 AP courses and 6 college courses at a Top 30 College in high school. Couldn't overcome that -210 SAT score they tacked on.




Return to “Law School Admissions Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: arthrod, Kimmysradscreenname, Yahoo [Bot] and 6 guests