UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby NayBoer » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:19 pm

GeePee wrote:If you get waitlisted at UVA you're pretty much guaranteed to not come off of it. I don't think they've accepted off the waitlist in about 3 cycles (it seems like they always overenroll)

Agreed, WL is death at UVA. I meant he may be coming off the NU waitlist, referring to this quote:
NayBoer wrote:Last summer several 175s with GPAs from low 3s downward were WL at NU until June. Just FYI.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby IAFG » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:36 pm

dk8 wrote:IAFG, when did you go complete at UVA? I'm instate as well, similar GPA but with a 171, have had several status updates and seen instate applicants with lower numbers than me get accepted even though they went complete later than I did.

I'll probably fax the form tomorrow.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, I was reading the UVA website weeks ago and saw that it listed the ED deadline as March, but disregarded it since the form on the LSAC website still listed a Dec. 15 deadline.

i went complete in December but asked to hold my file for Dec LSAT.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby im_blue » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:05 pm

YCrevolution wrote:
whoknows12 wrote:Jaws did you just happen to read this or get some email or something?

I think im_blue gets credit for first discovering (last night) this change on the UVA website.


Haha, I didn't know that this little nugget of information would incite such a firestorm, but I found it while randomly browsing the admissions web site. I'm actually surprised that it wasn't caught earlier by TLS, if the change was indeed made in mid-December.
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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Pearalegal » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:07 pm

thepunisher24 wrote:
GeePee wrote:If you get waitlisted at UVA you're pretty much guaranteed to not come off of it. I don't think they've accepted off the waitlist in about 3 cycles (it seems like they always overenroll)


This.


No.

I know someone who got off the waitlist last year and the year before. Remember, not everyone is on LSN.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:12 pm

Pearalegal wrote:
thepunisher24 wrote:
GeePee wrote:If you get waitlisted at UVA you're pretty much guaranteed to not come off of it. I don't think they've accepted off the waitlist in about 3 cycles (it seems like they always overenroll)


This.


No.

I know someone who got off the waitlist last year and the year before. Remember, not everyone is on LSN.


Dean Jason Trujillo wrote:We typically make at least several hundred wait list offers. In the years that I have been doing this, we have filled zero to more than 20 percent of the class via the wait list. So literally in some years I have made zero wait-list offers and one year I made 92. It’s crazy. You just can’t predict it and you have to be prepared. We try to release people from the wait list quickly when it become obvious we will not be able to offer them admission.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby D. H2Oman » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:13 pm

Pearalegal wrote:
thepunisher24 wrote:
GeePee wrote:If you get waitlisted at UVA you're pretty much guaranteed to not come off of it. I don't think they've accepted off the waitlist in about 3 cycles (it seems like they always overenroll)


This.


No.

I know someone who got off the waitlist last year and the year before. Remember, not everyone is on LSN.



Also, LSN does show off the WL acceptances.

But, yeah they do WL a lot off people, so your odds of coming are low, but that's true pretty much everywhere

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Pearalegal » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:15 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
Pearalegal wrote:
thepunisher24 wrote:
GeePee wrote:If you get waitlisted at UVA you're pretty much guaranteed to not come off of it. I don't think they've accepted off the waitlist in about 3 cycles (it seems like they always overenroll)


This.


No.

I know someone who got off the waitlist last year and the year before. Remember, not everyone is on LSN.


Dean Jason Trujillo wrote:We typically make at least several hundred wait list offers. In the years that I have been doing this, we have filled zero to more than 20 percent of the class via the wait list. So literally in some years I have made zero wait-list offers and one year I made 92. It’s crazy. You just can’t predict it and you have to be prepared. We try to release people from the wait list quickly when it become obvious we will not be able to offer them admission.


Yes, thank you for pointing out the obvious for almost every school.

Notice I didn't say it was easy to get off, or something you should even remotely consider. All I said was that in the past two years, people have gotten off.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:21 pm

Pearalegal wrote:Yes, thank you for pointing out the obvious for almost every school.

Notice I didn't say it was easy to get off, or something you should even remotely consider. All I said was that in the past two years, people have gotten off.


I wasn't really providing that link to dispute anything you said, just thought it was a worthwhile addition to the speculation. Jesus, calm down, little defensive?

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Pearalegal » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:28 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
Pearalegal wrote:Yes, thank you for pointing out the obvious for almost every school.

Notice I didn't say it was easy to get off, or something you should even remotely consider. All I said was that in the past two years, people have gotten off.


I wasn't really providing that link to dispute anything you said, just thought it was a worthwhile addition to the speculation. Jesus, calm down, little defensive?


Well, you did post a quote that seems like it was attempting to be some sort of refute of what was said before without any explanation for the purpose.

But apologies. I've been sitting in my office for 3 hours, just waiting on an attorney to give me my damned assignment. Am cranky.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby dk8 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:39 pm

im_blue wrote:
YCrevolution wrote:
whoknows12 wrote:Jaws did you just happen to read this or get some email or something?

I think im_blue gets credit for first discovering (last night) this change on the UVA website.


Haha, I didn't know that this little nugget of information would incite such a firestorm, but I found it while randomly browsing the admissions web site. I'm actually surprised that it wasn't caught earlier by TLS, if the change was indeed made in mid-December.



It was for sure. I remember reading it and thinking it was left up from last year or something. I just figured since it said Dec 15 on the actual form, Dec 15 was the real date.

I'm going to call them tomorrow and make sure.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:49 pm

Pearalegal wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
Pearalegal wrote:Yes, thank you for pointing out the obvious for almost every school.

Notice I didn't say it was easy to get off, or something you should even remotely consider. All I said was that in the past two years, people have gotten off.


I wasn't really providing that link to dispute anything you said, just thought it was a worthwhile addition to the speculation. Jesus, calm down, little defensive?


Well, you did post a quote that seems like it was attempting to be some sort of refute of what was said before without any explanation for the purpose.

But apologies. I've been sitting in my office for 3 hours, just waiting on an attorney to give me my damned assignment. Am cranky.


S'ok, we're good.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Pearalegal » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:52 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
S'ok, we're good.


Thanks.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby jj10 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:41 pm

Under this new UVA ED deadline, if you have already received a decision, a WL, can you reapply ED? Do you think it would be of any boost to get off the WL?

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby thesealocust » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:44 pm

n/m
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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby GeePee » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:45 pm

jj10 wrote:Under this new UVA ED deadline, if you have already received a decision, a WL, can you reapply ED? Do you think it would be of any boost to get off the WL?

It depends. If you're <170, <3.85, probably nothing could help you get off the waitlist. Otherwise, go for it.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Encyclopedia Brown » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:58 pm

So I decided to take advantage of this, and I just submitted the ED contract this morning. It will arrive on Monday. So processing time + 15 days and I'll know where I stand.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby 09042014 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:06 pm

Encyclopedia Brown wrote:So I decided to take advantage of this, and I just submitted the ED contract this morning. It will arrive on Monday. So processing time + 15 days and I'll know where I stand.


Good luck.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby sccjnthn » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:53 pm

I submitted mine this morning, can't wait to find out!

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby frix0803 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:39 am

sent mine just now. will get there on monday. good luck to all who took the same course!

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby APimpNamedSlickback » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:57 am

wait, so can someone on the uva waitlist actually re-apply ed? that would probably change the nature of its waitlist as effectively a soft rejection, no?

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby thesealocust » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:59 am

n/m
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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby showNprove » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:29 pm

I didn't read this whole thread, but having some inside knowledge, I'd thought I'd share.

Applications are up at UVA, and this is not an attempt to get more (after all, how many people would pay to apply ED when they wouldn't have paid to apply RD? very few in very limited circumstances).

The real reason is this: Virginia loves applicants who express a strong desire to attend Virginia, and they often get requests from applicants after the ED deadline to permit them to bind themselves ED. Although it's called "early decision," there is no apparent reason to prevent applicants from binding themselves to your school if they wish, simply because you're later in the admissions cycle. Because applicants have expressed a desire to do so, and because Virginia has nothing to lose and only something to gain, why would they not?

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby 02082010 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:36 pm

It just makes them seem shady/TTT.

Still happy to be admitted though! Thanks Cordel!

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby booboo » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:42 pm

showNprove wrote:I didn't read this whole thread, but having some inside knowledge, I'd thought I'd share.

Applications are up at UVA, and this is not an attempt to get more (after all, how many people would pay to apply ED when they wouldn't have paid to apply RD? very few in very limited circumstances).

The real reason is this: Virginia loves applicants who express a strong desire to attend Virginia, and they often get requests from applicants after the ED deadline to permit them to bind themselves ED. Although it's called "early decision," there is no apparent reason to prevent applicants from binding themselves to your school if they wish, simply because you're later in the admissions cycle. Because applicants have expressed a desire to do so, and because Virginia has nothing to lose and only something to gain, why would they not?


I hope more admissions office take this view.

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Re: UVA eliminates/extends ED deadline

Postby Unitas » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:50 pm

booboo wrote:
showNprove wrote:I didn't read this whole thread, but having some inside knowledge, I'd thought I'd share.

Applications are up at UVA, and this is not an attempt to get more (after all, how many people would pay to apply ED when they wouldn't have paid to apply RD? very few in very limited circumstances).

The real reason is this: Virginia loves applicants who express a strong desire to attend Virginia, and they often get requests from applicants after the ED deadline to permit them to bind themselves ED. Although it's called "early decision," there is no apparent reason to prevent applicants from binding themselves to your school if they wish, simply because you're later in the admissions cycle. Because applicants have expressed a desire to do so, and because Virginia has nothing to lose and only something to gain, why would they not?


I hope more admissions office take this view.


WHAT? This is where this ED crap becomes problematic. Imagine all of the t4-14 doing this and then only wanting to let students in who ED “It appears UVA is already doing this by just ignoring non-ed applications currently.” So what would probably happen if all schools do it? Students who suspect they won’t get into HYS would ED to the school ranked 4 if rejected or deferred then apply ED to 5 then 6 then 7 then 8… until they finally get into their “top” choice. This is horrible and stupid, because it would make students who didn’t want to ED anywhere have to wait forever. To avoid this students who wouldn't ED would then ED to avoid the stress. Setting up a vicious cycle.

This is crappier then waitlists. This ED setup helps the school at the expense of the students. And if you expect it to greatly help UVA that is incorrect in the long run, because all the other schools will do it if it works slightly well for UVA.

EDIT: put in more of why this is horrible.
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