How far can connections go in the application process?

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How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:23 am

So I am applying to a well known law school (it will remain nameless) and I am a bit of a long shot there. I have a very strong connection to someone who knows a number of "select influential alums/donors" and he is willing to make a call in "strong support" of my application...I am also planning to visit the school this month. So can anyone weigh in as to how far this kind of connection can take me or is anyone else in a similar situation.

As a secondary matter, would you feel bad about utilizing these connections in order to gain admission?

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Pearalegal » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:25 am

There is absolutely no way to tell to what extent using your connections will have on your application.

Yes, I would feel bad. I'd feel less bad if people wanted to help me out for a "real," reason as opposed to me just being lucky to know someone through mommy or daddy or whatever.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby ec2xs » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:26 am

When I was 18 and thought the world was made of rainbows and sunshine, I would have felt bad.

Nowadays....use any tool you can. Use that connection into the ground.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:27 am

Pearalegal wrote:There is absolutely no way to tell to what extent using your connections will have on your application.

Yes, I would feel bad. I'd feel less bad if people wanted to help me out for a "real," reason as opposed to me just being lucky to know someone through mommy or daddy or whatever.


Usually I try to do everything by the book, but this offer was completely unsolicited, and took me by surprise...I have been mulling it over and have yet to respond to his email

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:30 am

ec2xs wrote:When I was 18 and thought the world was made of rainbows and sunshine, I would have felt bad.

Nowadays....use any tool you can. Use that connection into the ground.



I would wager I am not the only person in the history of law school admissions to utilize this type of connection. But obviously it's different when its you...

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Postby DoubleChecks » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:31 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:So I am applying to a well known law school (it will remain nameless) and I am a bit of a long shot there. I have a very strong connection to someone who knows a number of "select influential alums/donors" and he is willing to make a call in "strong support" of my application...I am also planning to visit the school this month. So can anyone weigh in as to how far this kind of connection can take me or is anyone else in a similar situation.

As a secondary matter, would you feel bad about utilizing these connections in order to gain admission?


my parents are immigrants -- i never have and never will be able to experience the feeling of "having connections" to anywhere outside of an old chinese restaurant where i get to ask for as many fortune cookies as i want (my limit is really 5)

lol, i wouldnt feel bad -- isnt this the real world? if it offends your own personal set of morals/tastes, then thats another thing...we all have our self-promises (some call them self-delusions), so it just depends on what yours are

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby 09042014 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:32 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:So I am applying to a well known law school (it will remain nameless) and I am a bit of a long shot there. I have a very strong connection to someone who knows a number of "select influential alums/donors" and he is willing to make a call in "strong support" of my application...I am also planning to visit the school this month. So can anyone weigh in as to how far this kind of connection can take me or is anyone else in a similar situation.

As a secondary matter, would you feel bad about utilizing these connections in order to gain admission?


It depends how much of a long shot and how big of donors we are are talking about? A couple of alums who each give 1000 a year? No benefit. Someone who gave a millions, or the Governor of Illinois then yea you are in.

Feelings are for proles.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Pearalegal » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:34 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:I would wager I am not the only person in the history of law school admissions to utilize this type of connection. But obviously it's different when its you...


Hey, if you want to use it, go for it! In no way was I saying I would judge others. I personally would just feel like I hadn't gotten in on my own merits, and that'd bug me.

An attorney I work with offered to talk to a school where he has some pull for me (its a reach), and I was ok with that, just because I knew I had earned his respect through my work ethic.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:36 am

Desert Fox wrote:
chicoalto0649 wrote:So I am applying to a well known law school (it will remain nameless) and I am a bit of a long shot there. I have a very strong connection to someone who knows a number of "select influential alums/donors" and he is willing to make a call in "strong support" of my application...I am also planning to visit the school this month. So can anyone weigh in as to how far this kind of connection can take me or is anyone else in a similar situation.

As a secondary matter, would you feel bad about utilizing these connections in order to gain admission?


It depends how much of a long shot and how big of donors we are are talking about? A couple of alums who each give 1000 a year? No benefit. Someone who gave a millions, or the Governor of Illinois then yea you are in.

Feelings are for proles.


I am not a hail mary by any stretch....and their contributions are in excess of a 1000 a year. This I am certain of.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Vincent Vega » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:40 am

There's no harm in doing so, as far as your chances go. And I've always been told "it's not what you know, it's who you know." I may not agree with it, but it seems to be true more times than not. I'd go for it.

As for my connections, the only "ins" I have are at Northern Illinois and Mercer, neither of which I am anywhere near considering, so I envy your situation (I guess).

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby DavidYurman85 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:42 am

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby bloodonthetracks » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:43 am

Someone who gave a millions, or the Governor of Illinois then yea you are in.


hmm, maybe not the ex-Governor of Illinois, though.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Pearalegal » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:45 am

bloodonthetracks wrote:hmm, maybe not the ex-Governor of Illinois, though.


I hear Jon Stewart pronouncing his name every time I think about that guy now.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:45 am

bloodonthetracks wrote:
Someone who gave a millions, or the Governor of Illinois then yea you are in.


hmm, maybe not the ex-Governor of Illinois, though.



I was going to say that but totally forgot to.... blago ftl

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby zapper » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:54 am

it's not about how you get there, it's about what you do once you arrive

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:02 am

zapper wrote:it's not about how you get there, it's about what you do once you arrive



true too...

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby DoubleChecks » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:06 am

zapper wrote:it's not about how you get there, it's about what you do once you arrive


you talking about law school still?

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby 02082010 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:08 am

Pretty sure the only reason I was WL'ed @ Chicago, instead of rejected outright, is because BLSA members emailed Dean Perry on my behalf while my app was UR.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:28 am

hopefulundergrad wrote:Pretty sure the only reason I was WL'ed @ Chicago, instead of rejected outright, is because BLSA members emailed Dean Perry on my behalf while my app was UR.



You got in at WUSTL?

What other schools do you think you have a good shot of attending? I know you have had an up and down cycle.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Pearalegal » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:29 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:
hopefulundergrad wrote:Pretty sure the only reason I was WL'ed @ Chicago, instead of rejected outright, is because BLSA members emailed Dean Perry on my behalf while my app was UR.



You got in at WUSTL?

What other schools do you think you have a good shot of attending? I know you have had an up and down cycle.


When on earth did he say anything about WUSTL? So confused.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby chicoalto0649 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:31 am

Pearalegal wrote:
chicoalto0649 wrote:
hopefulundergrad wrote:Pretty sure the only reason I was WL'ed @ Chicago, instead of rejected outright, is because BLSA members emailed Dean Perry on my behalf while my app was UR.



You got in at WUSTL?

What other schools do you think you have a good shot of attending? I know you have had an up and down cycle.


When on earth did he say anything about WUSTL? So confused.


Just following up on him from another thread or w.e....

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby 02082010 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:33 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:
Pearalegal wrote:
chicoalto0649 wrote:
hopefulundergrad wrote:Pretty sure the only reason I was WL'ed @ Chicago, instead of rejected outright, is because BLSA members emailed Dean Perry on my behalf while my app was UR.



You got in at WUSTL?

What other schools do you think you have a good shot of attending? I know you have had an up and down cycle.


When on earth did he say anything about WUSTL? So confused.


Just following up on him from another thread or w.e....


In at WUSTL, UVA, GULC, and William & Mary. But those were all LSAT-based decisions.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Pearalegal » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:34 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:
Just following up on him from another thread or w.e....



Ooooh.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby keg411 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:37 am

Halibut6 wrote:There's no harm in doing so, as far as your chances go. And I've always been told "it's not what you know, it's who you know." I may not agree with it, but it seems to be true more times than not. I'd go for it.

As for my connections, the only "ins" I have are at Northern Illinois and Mercer, neither of which I am anywhere near considering, so I envy your situation (I guess).


I found out that I actually have an adcomm connection at a law school (one that I didn't apply to, but am now being encouraged to). I was essentially told if I'm an auto-reject, it wouldn't matter, but if I'm borderline it would help. I'm guessing that's similar to the OP's situation. And yes, OP, use your connection. There is no harm in it, especially if you really want to go to the school.

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Re: How far can connections go in the application process?

Postby Ragged » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:39 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:
As a secondary matter, would you feel bad about utilizing these connections in order to gain admission?



Don't feel bad. You gotta use what you can. :wink:




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