White Jew- Diversity essay

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White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby jtawil » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:50 pm

I'll be blunt. I'm a white jewish new yorker applying to law school. But a lot of the schools I'm applying to have an "optional" diversity essay that we can submit with application.
Is it worth trying to show how I'm a diverse student or don't bother with that essay at all?

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby xnsch » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:17 pm

jtawil wrote:I'll be blunt. I'm a white jewish new yorker applying to law school. But a lot of the schools I'm applying to have an "optional" diversity essay that we can submit with application.
Is it worth trying to show how I'm a diverse student or don't bother with that essay at all?


Depends on what you want to portray as your diversity? But seriously don't write a diversity statement solely as a white Jew from New York. That on its own has to be the least diverse type of person at a law school. That's like the archetypal lawyer--just look at the Supreme Court

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby littlewing67 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:24 pm

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby kingpin101 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:27 pm

If someone wrote a diversity essay solely on being a white jew, I'd probably auto-deny (unless you're 80 and survived the Holocaust).

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby Rigo » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:24 pm

I wouldn't.

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby biglawhopeful18 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:33 pm

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby Mr. Freeze » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:41 am

I Would not do it

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby jtawil » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:04 am

Thanks all. But what if I showed how I'm diverse without mentioning the white Jew aspect. Worth trying?

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby Rigo » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:10 am

jtawil wrote:Thanks all. But what if I showed how I'm diverse without mentioning the white Jew aspect. Worth trying?

How are you diverse though?

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:14 am

Rigo wrote:
jtawil wrote:Thanks all. But what if I showed how I'm diverse without mentioning the white Jew aspect. Worth trying?

How are you diverse though?

Yeah, it depends what else you're going to talk about. If you had some kind of really unusual upbringing (you grew up in a commune), or some kind of rare life or work experience (you had cancer/you were the youngest ever mayor of your hometown) that you would bring to bear on your law school experience, maybe. If you're just going to try the "everyone is diverse" angle, I wouldn't. (Obviously those are completely hypothetical examples.)

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby jtawil » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:02 pm

I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby poptart123 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:06 pm

xnsch wrote:
jtawil wrote:I'll be blunt. I'm a white jewish new yorker applying to law school. But a lot of the schools I'm applying to have an "optional" diversity essay that we can submit with application.
Is it worth trying to show how I'm a diverse student or don't bother with that essay at all?


Depends on what you want to portray as your diversity? But seriously don't write a diversity statement solely as a white Jew from New York. That on its own has to be the least diverse type of person at a law school. That's like the archetypal lawyer--just look at the Supreme Court


this made me laugh pretty hard at work

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby ronanOgara » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:09 pm

jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...


if anything, that should be mentioned in your PS

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby Rigo » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:12 pm

jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...

Don't write that. You're not diverse, and that's okay.

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby cavalier1138 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:31 pm

jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...


Now I'm deeply curious about a Jewish community that doesn't value professional education.

How is anyone in this place marrying nice young doctors and lawyers?

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby ArtistOfManliness » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:09 pm

jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...


You're trying too hard. You're not diverse.

Stop trying to make diverse happen. It's not going to happen.

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby ZVBXRPL » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:20 pm

I just did some very quick googling about diversity statements
https://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/ask-asha/we-are-world

My inclination is to say that the downside risk that they think this isn't a great diversity example is bigger than the upside potential. There are obviously so many Jews, even observant ones, at just about all top schools, and I don't think an admissions officer would read and think, oh, yes, this is an additional compelling reason to admit.

It may be a fine topic for the personal statement, but I just don't know that I'm sold that it feels like a type of diversity that is really going to impact the law school experience and what you can contribute to the class to justify the separate statement.

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby jtawil » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:26 pm

cavalier1138 wrote:
jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...


Now I'm deeply curious about a Jewish community that doesn't value professional education.

How is anyone in this place marrying nice young doctors and lawyers?


Hahaha we don't. Mostly marrying successful real estate moguls and wholesalers...

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby jtawil » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:27 pm

ZVBXRPL wrote:I just did some very quick googling about diversity statements
https://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/jd-admissions/ask-asha/we-are-world

My inclination is to say that the downside risk that they think this isn't a great diversity example is bigger than the upside potential. There are obviously so many Jews, even observant ones, at just about all top schools, and I don't think an admissions officer would read and think, oh, yes, this is an additional compelling reason to admit.

It may be a fine topic for the personal statement, but I just don't know that I'm sold that it feels like a type of diversity that is really going to impact the law school experience and what you can contribute to the class to justify the separate statement.


Thanks so much!!

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby ZVBXRPL » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:34 pm

jtawil wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...


Now I'm deeply curious about a Jewish community that doesn't value professional education.

How is anyone in this place marrying nice young doctors and lawyers?


Hahaha we don't. Mostly marrying successful real estate moguls and wholesalers...

Sephardic (OP, BUT NOT THE NORM) vs. Ashkenaz (dr/lawyer). Lol an SY named Tawil. Smooth.

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby jtawil » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:41 pm

ZVBXRPL wrote:
jtawil wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
jtawil wrote:I was thinking to write about coming from a community that doesn't value education in which higher education is rarely done, and all high school students go directly into business.
Breaking through that barrier...


Now I'm deeply curious about a Jewish community that doesn't value professional education.

How is anyone in this place marrying nice young doctors and lawyers?


Hahaha we don't. Mostly marrying successful real estate moguls and wholesalers...

Sephardic (OP, BUT NOT THE NORM) vs. Ashkenaz (dr/lawyer). Lol an SY named Tawil. Smooth.

Hahaha bingo

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby Go Nats! » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:48 pm

Instead of asking about whether a diversity essay is a good idea, how about you just write something, post it, and we can tell you whether or not it's a good piece of writing?

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby zeglo » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:24 pm

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Re: White Jew- Diversity essay

Postby ArtistOfManliness » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:27 pm

zeglo wrote:You're not diverse. Don't write one. I am basically the same as you.


I think you're confusing diversity with uniqueness. Nonetheless, don't write one.



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