PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

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PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Blessedassurance » Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:08 am

I had a question along these lines so I did a little bit of research for the T14 regarding PS length, most of the information can be found on a school's website. I have added extra information I found interesting.
1. Yale
2-3 pages recommended
http://www.top-law-schools.com/yale-law-school.html

2. Harvard
Application became available on September 15th.
Harvard asks that you limit it to two pages (no less than 11 – font).
http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/ ... #available

3. Stanford
Application for Fall 2012 became available September 15th
2 Pages
“Enclose a statement of about two pages describing important or unusual aspects of yourself not otherwise apparent in your application. The statement must be submitted electronically with your electronic application”
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4. Columbia
Application for Fall 2012 became available September 1st.
No Limit
“While there is no official page limit, a good guideline is two double-spaced pages, using readable fonts and margins. Your personal statement/essay should be clear, concise and an example of your best writing. It should also be free from spelling and grammatical errors.”
http://www.law.columbia.edu/jd_applican ... ocs#942495

5. Chicago
Application became available September 1st
Generally no word limit. 2-3 pages recommended (see post above)
ETA: The Chicago application currently available states 2-4 pages.

6. NYU
Application became available in September (15th)
Note: One recommendation is required to complete an application.
Length left to the discretion of the student.
“Because people and their interests vary, we leave the content and length of your statement to your discretion. You may wish to complete or clarify your responses to items on the application form, bring to our attention additional information you feel should be considered, describe important or unusual aspects of yourself not otherwise apparent in your application, or tell us what led you to apply to NYU School of Law.”

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7. Michigan
Applications became available September 15th
No limit stated on their website
Note: States that there is some advantage to applying earlier rather than later.
Note: “Bear in mind that there is no statistically significant difference within plus or minus three points of any particular LSAT score”.
Also requires one recommendation for file to be considered complete.

7. Penn
Application available September 15th.
2-Page limit on PS

9. Berkeley
2-4 pages
http://www.law.berkeley.edu/5188.htm

9. Virginia
Begins September 1st
No word limit: “No, we invite applicants to write essays that are long enough to express whatever they think the Admissions Committee should know”
http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospectives/faqs.htm
Note: 40% reserved for residents of Virginia
“As a public law school, 40 percent of the places in our student body are historically reserved for residents of the Commonwealth of Virginia.”

11. Duke
No word limit
“There is no minimum or maximum length for the personal statement, although most are between one-and-a-half and three pages. Be succinct, but be sure to include what you think we need to know. As long as it's interesting, we don't mind reading!”
http://www.law.duke.edu/admis/faq#statement

12. Northwestern
Application starts on September 15th.
Recommended length: 1 to 3 pages
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cation.pdf
Note: Specifically states that it takes highest score per its policy (regarding multiple scores)

13. Cornell
Application became available September 15th
2 Page limit on PS (not less than size 10 font though so some leeway)
Note: In general, Cornell takes the highest score if it is at least 3 points higher than the lower score.

14. Georgetown
Available October 1st
No information on page limit found
Note: Requires one recommendation for file to be complete
Note: “Georgetown may consider the higher LSAT score if you have only taken the LSAT twice. Please address any mitigating circumstances you feel the Admissions Committee should consider.”

14. Texas
Available in September
2 Page limit
Note: “No, the Law School may matriculate no more than 35% non-resident students. However, each year the Law School extends offers of admission to several hundred non-resident applicants.”

Finally, a break-down

Definite 2 Page Limit
Harvard
Stanford
Penn
Cornell (no less than size 10 font)
Texas

1-3, or 2-3, otherwise where noted
Yale
Chicago (recommended, 2-4 currently)
Berkeley (2-4)
Northwestern (Recommended)

No Limit
Columbia
NYU
Michigan (Did not find one, could be different)
UVA
Duke
GULC (could not find one, could be different)

Finally, I think a need another hobby. :shock:

ETA: Yale's application is currently not available but all others in the T14 are. Remember to thoroughly check your application (by actually reading through the 'preview') before submission as there could be formatting issues.
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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby freestallion » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:43 am

This is INCREDIBLY helpful - I was about to go and create a list myself. So thank you for that!

I guess for most schools keeping it around 2 pages should be fine; and it seems like size 11 font is generally ok, as well.

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Postby Samara » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:47 am

This needs to be added to this: --LinkRemoved--

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby freestallion » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:51 pm

Does anyone know if schools are ok with size 11 font, if they say 2 pages double spaced is ok?

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Ssushi » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:31 pm

Mine right now is 2 pages single space. I thought it was the proper length but it is significantly too long if alot of the places mean 2 pages double spaced (like columbia)

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby fltanglab » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:33 pm

Double spaced.

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Blessedassurance » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:47 am

freestallion wrote:Does anyone know if schools are ok with size 11 font, if they say 2 pages double spaced is ok?


Yes most schools are okay with size-11 font. I think one school in the list allows size-10 font (see above)

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Blessedassurance » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:47 am

Ssushi wrote:Mine right now is 2 pages single space. I thought it was the proper length but it is significantly too long if alot of the places mean 2 pages double spaced (like columbia)


Most require double-spaced. While Columbia requires double-spaced, I don't think they have a limit. I checked but you may wanna re-check on their website to verify.

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby RockinJosh » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:34 pm

great post.

this info, along with some additional notes from admission deans blogs or school FAQs is also organized here: http://statementsupport.com/2011/how-long-personal-statement/

Thanks!
-Josh

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby rich_4 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:38 am

this is awesome - thanks!

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby RockinJosh » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:56 am

Blessedassurance wrote:
Ssushi wrote:Mine right now is 2 pages single space. I thought it was the proper length but it is significantly too long if alot of the places mean 2 pages double spaced (like columbia)


Most require double-spaced. While Columbia requires double-spaced, I don't think they have a limit. I checked but you may wanna re-check on their website to verify.



here is your "double check" from the columbia website:
"“While there is no official page limit, a good guideline is two double-spaced pages, using readable fonts and margins. Your personal statement/essay should be clear, concise and an example of your best writing. It should also be free from spelling and grammatical errors.”"

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby cmb0219 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:28 am

excellent post, thanks.

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Moomoo2u » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:29 pm

For those looking at this Michigan does have a 1 page limit for addenda.

" Supplemental essays allow you an opportunity to provide us with relevant information that you were not able to include elsewhere in your application materials. If you wish, write one or two essays (but no more) on the following topics. Each essay should be about one page."

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby ladybug89 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:47 pm

argh i didn't even think about spacing (stupid i know). time to go chop it in half i guess

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby ladybug89 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:52 pm

also, useful thread! thanks op.

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby sach1282 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:03 pm

Bump for awesome post and an awesome avatar.

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Revolver066 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:18 pm

I think ucla asks for 12 pt font. Anyone know if any other schools ask for that?

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby 80eight » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:17 am

Just wanted to bump this extremely useful post for other applicants!

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby YoungProfessional » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:39 am

Very informative. Thanks!

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby disco_stu » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:46 pm

Cornell's application specifically says: "Try to limit your statement to two pages, use double spacing, and at least 11 point font." Is this a definite 2 page limit, or is a 2 1/4 page statement acceptable? This is the first ambiguous personal statement prompt I've seen...

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby RockinJosh » Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:29 pm

I would limit it for sure to 2 pages. There is no "try"....

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby paul34 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:14 pm

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby Lemon Lyman » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:17 pm

Great guide, much appreciated.

I do think Stanford allows for some leeway. I interpreted "about 2 pages" as 2-3.

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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby JamMasterJ » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:33 pm

you may want to add this to the OP (though you may be going for something more recent)
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Re: PSA: For 2012 Applicants wondering about PS length for T14

Postby desiballa21 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:56 pm

Acceptable fonts? I'm JUST over 2 pages w/ Times New Roman 11pt font and need something to bring me to 2. Is any clear and professional font okay?




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