Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

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Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby edubs003 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:31 pm

My personal statement is 3 1/2 pages long, but most schools I'm looking at only want 2 pages. What should I do? It's a pretty serious personal statement so cutting out something isn't an option. Should I put something like, "Due to the seriousness of the situation, this personal statement had to be 3 1/2 pages long." What do people think?

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby 1Levening2013 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:32 pm

write a new one for the schools that have a 2 page max....they have a max for a reason and dont need to see your disclaimer

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby Shooter » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:33 pm

You don't have to eliminate content, just words.

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Postby paratactical » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:34 pm

edubs003 wrote:Should I put something like, "Due to the seriousness of the situation, this personal statement had to be 3 1/2 pages long." What do people think?


Best joke on TLS today.

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:34 pm

edubs003 wrote: "Due to the seriousness of the situation, this personal statement had to be 3 1/2 pages long."[/b]



LOL :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


The poster that said you need to eliminate words not content is correct.
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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby edubs003 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:35 pm

I don't think you understand. I'm talking about jail time and alcohol abuse. If I cut down my personal statement, my addendum will just be longer. Doesn't make much sense. I'm thinking about just sending it and letting them figure out why it's longer than 2 pages.

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Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:35 pm

edubs003 wrote:I don't think you understand. I'm talking about jail time and alcohol abuse. If I cut down my personal statement, my addendum will just be longer. Doesn't make much sense. I'm thinking about just sending it and letting them figure out why it's longer than 2 pages.


Then you're thinking of not getting into many law schools huh. Follow directions children.

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Postby edubs003 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:36 pm

Also, I spent a lot of time getting it perfect and saying what I want to say. Now I'm finding out it's 1 1/2 pages too long. Whether it's words or content, doesn't matter. That would cut out way too much.

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Postby Shooter » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:37 pm

Do so at your own peril, man. Doesn't matter how compelling your story is, if you can't follow directions, you aren't getting in.

Write about your jailtime, write about your alcohol abuse, but eliminate details and anecdotes that are not absolutely critical.

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Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:38 pm

edubs003 wrote:Also, I spent a lot of time getting it perfect and saying what I want to say. Now I'm finding out it's 1 1/2 pages too long. Whether it's words or content, doesn't matter. That would cut out way too much.



Words and content are not the same thing. If you refuse to listen to reason, by all means, go ahead and torpedo your applications.
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Postby paratactical » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:38 pm

edubs003 wrote:I don't think you understand. I'm talking about jail time and alcohol abuse. If I cut down my personal statement, my addendum will just be longer. Doesn't make much sense. I'm thinking about just sending it and letting them figure out why it's longer than 2 pages.


I've read two pages personal statements where people can cover brain cancer and losing their parents; I've also already seen a two page statement that talks about jail time and alcohol abuse. You will not be doing yourself any favors by displaying that you still can't follow the rules, even after you've "learned" from a reckless past.

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Postby birdlaw117 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:39 pm

Additionally, don't come on to TLS asking for advice and then spit in the face of those who are giving you legitimate advice.

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Postby ARTfulDodger » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:40 pm

edubs003 wrote:Also, I spent a lot of time getting it perfect and saying what I want to say. Now I'm finding out it's 1 1/2 pages too long. Whether it's words or content, doesn't matter. That would cut out way too much.


Perhaps along with cutting some words, you need to revisit the content of your PS. Maybe you're taking too much time explaining one aspect. Either way, your PS can be cut down.

Plus, how do you know that if you do cut out some words, that it would be cutting out too much?

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby 1Levening2013 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:40 pm

i mean i understand that [i]you[i] think its a serious topic and that it deserves more space. but its likely that thousands of other people think there issues deserve more space/more explaining too. what gives you that right, and not them?

heed the advice of everyone else. follow directions

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby edubs003 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:40 pm

Aqualibrium wrote:
edubs003 wrote:I don't think you understand. I'm talking about jail time and alcohol abuse. If I cut down my personal statement, my addendum will just be longer. Doesn't make much sense. I'm thinking about just sending it and letting them figure out why it's longer than 2 pages.


Then you're thinking of not getting into many law schools huh. Follow directions children.


Well I do have a diversity statement that's two pages. But then my addendum will be 3 pages. So what's the difference of putting the extra 1 1/2 pages on an addendum or a personal statement? It's the same amount of reading. I know they say don't go over two pages but I've also heard that they won't stop reading at 2 pages. And lets be honest, I'm probably not getting into many schools either way with my criminal history. So who cares if it's a little long?

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Postby edubs003 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:41 pm

birdlaw117 wrote:Additionally, don't come on to TLS asking for advice and then spit in the face of those who are giving you legitimate advice.


Why don't you go fuck yourself? I came here for advice, not ridicule.

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby Aqualibrium » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:42 pm

edubs003 wrote:
birdlaw117 wrote:Additionally, don't come on to TLS asking for advice and then spit in the face of those who are giving you legitimate advice.


Why don't you go fuck yourself? I came here for advice, not ridicule.



I looked at this guy's profile to see if there was some reason he was being so pig headed about following simple directions....there isn't one.

Lets see:

154 LSAT
3.0 GPA
Jail time
Alcoholism
AND he can't follow directions

Def a safe bet for HYS
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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby paratactical » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:42 pm

edubs003 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
edubs003 wrote:I don't think you understand. I'm talking about jail time and alcohol abuse. If I cut down my personal statement, my addendum will just be longer. Doesn't make much sense. I'm thinking about just sending it and letting them figure out why it's longer than 2 pages.


Then you're thinking of not getting into many law schools huh. Follow directions children.


Well I do have a diversity statement that's two pages. But then my addendum will be 3 pages. So what's the difference of putting the extra 1 1/2 pages on an addendum or a personal statement? It's the same amount of reading. I know they say don't go over two pages but I've also heard that they won't stop reading at 2 pages. And lets be honest, I'm probably not getting into many schools either way with my criminal history. So who cares if it's a little long?


You really should not submit a PS longer than 2 pages to schools that specify a 2 page PS. You really should not be submitting an addendum longer than one page. Doing either, or both of these things, will probably only serve to hurt you and make it look like you still don't understand how to follow rules and that you still believe rules don't apply to you.

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby ARTfulDodger » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:44 pm

paratactical wrote:
edubs003 wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:
edubs003 wrote:I don't think you understand. I'm talking about jail time and alcohol abuse. If I cut down my personal statement, my addendum will just be longer. Doesn't make much sense. I'm thinking about just sending it and letting them figure out why it's longer than 2 pages.


Then you're thinking of not getting into many law schools huh. Follow directions children.


Well I do have a diversity statement that's two pages. But then my addendum will be 3 pages. So what's the difference of putting the extra 1 1/2 pages on an addendum or a personal statement? It's the same amount of reading. I know they say don't go over two pages but I've also heard that they won't stop reading at 2 pages. And lets be honest, I'm probably not getting into many schools either way with my criminal history. So who cares if it's a little long?


You really should not submit a PS longer than 2 pages to schools that specify a 2 page PS. You really should not be submitting an addendum longer than one page. Doing either, or both of these things, will probably only serve to hurt you and make it look like you still don't understand how to follow rules and that you still believe rules don't apply to you.


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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby shanshan333 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:45 pm

I also struggled with this/ still am struggling with this. My best advice to you would be to try a rewrite if you're really stuck with how to condense it. If you feel like taking out certain sentences would fragment the piece than just try a total rewrite. Sometimes essays are cohesive and that's the easier approach. Look back at your original to keep on track and keep the content as others suggested and approach the rewrite with the mindset that every word you write must be absolutely essential and must be the shortest/ most concise way you can express your idea. A shorter, 2 pg piece that hits home big ideas is much more impressive than a long winded statement; though, I would not claim that your topic/PS does not warrant 3 1/2 pgs. It is not impossible but you should rewrite it if you feel frozen.

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby birdlaw117 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:45 pm

edubs003 wrote:Well I do have a diversity statement that's two pages. But then my addendum will be 3 pages. So what's the difference of putting the extra 1 1/2 pages on an addendum or a personal statement? It's the same amount of reading. I know they say don't go over two pages but I've also heard that they won't stop reading at 2 pages. And lets be honest, I'm probably not getting into many schools either way with my criminal history. So who cares if it's a little long?


Your addendum is most likely far too lengthy as well. Concise writing is very important, both in law school and in the admissions process. I guarantee you can cut a lot of unnecessary details out of every one of those essays. Just trying to give you some advice. If you don't want to talk the advice of people in here then just submit your apps and report in about how it goes when you get your decisions.

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby birdlaw117 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 pm

shanshan333 wrote:I also struggled with this/ still am struggling with this. My best advice to you would be to try a rewrite if you're really stuck with how to condense it. If you feel like taking out certain sentences would fragment the piece than just try a total rewrite. Sometimes essays are cohesive and that's the easier approach. Look back at your original to keep on track and keep the content as others suggested and approach the rewrite with the mindset that every word you write must be absolutely essential and must be the shortest/ most concise way you can express your idea. A shorter, 2 pg piece that hits home big ideas is much more impressive than a long winded statement; though, I would not claim that your topic/PS does not warrant 3 1/2 pgs. It is not impossible but you should rewrite it if you feel frozen.

+1

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby edubs003 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Aqualibrium wrote:
edubs003 wrote:
birdlaw117 wrote:Additionally, don't come on to TLS asking for advice and then spit in the face of those who are giving you legitimate advice.


Why don't you go fuck yourself? I came here for advice, not ridicule.



I looked at this guy's profile to see if there was some reason he was being so pig headed about following simple directions....there isn't one.

Lets see:

154 LSAT
Jail time
Alcoholism
AND he can't follow directions

Def a safe bet for HYS


I'm not looking for HYS. I'm looking for advice and that's guys comment didn't give any. Also, if it asks for a optional statement. Can I not just use my personal statement, making it longer, to answer both?

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby chup » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Holy shit, are you serious?

YOU ARE NOT A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE; YOU DON'T GET A SPECIAL SET OF RULES THAT APPLY ONLY TO YOU.

Cut it down.

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Re: Personal Statement too long? Put a disclaimer at the top?

Postby icouldbuyu » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:48 pm

For the Diversity Statement and Why X statement, they can be up to 2 pages right? The 1 page addendum rule doesn't apply, correct?




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