George Mason Class of 2011

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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby tarp » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:22 pm

Yeah, I saw that... that's good news at least.


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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby laxgirl37 » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:30 am

Any thoughts on the summer reading?


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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby rbcatalina » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:38 am

I am a GMU Law Alumnus (2006). My law office is about a mile from campus, or two stops on the Metro, and only 3 blocks from the Arlington Courthouse. I have a 1 bedroom apartment above the law office that is for rent and available August 12, 2008. The apartment has its own separate entrance, and comes with a garage parking space and free high speed Internet.

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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby teachertolawyer » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:48 pm

Schedules are online now (Patriot Web)

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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby anchaires » Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:15 pm

so far, I haven't got a friday class, but Legal writing is TBD.......but how sweet would it be to have Friday's without class?

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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby longhornforlife » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:04 pm

anchaires wrote:so far, I haven't got a friday class, but Legal writing is TBD.......but how sweet would it be to have Friday's without class?

I hate to burst your bubble ( I got excited too) but Legal writing is on Fridays...the time just hasn't been posted yet!

I wonder if they just split the class in half to separate the times...theres not that many of us. I'm used to huge lecture halls coming from UT. small classes are going to be fun.

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Re: George Mason Class of 2011

Postby yalie10 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:58 pm

Hi, I just finished my 1L year at GMU and will be transferring to Yale in the fall. I thought I would provide some insight into what you can expect from the various professors that teach 1L courses.


Vermont: He taught my section and was an absolutely fabulous professor. He's very young but has a brilliant mind and if you are interested in Law & Econ you'll love the class. Vermont spends most of the time posing hypotheticals (usually variations of actual cases we've read for class) and then asks us to resolve the case using the least cost avoider principle or black-letter-law. I gained more practical experience applying Economics in his class than I did in Econ. I thought Vermont was the best professor I had at GMU. His class was the most enjoyable of my 1L classes and I believe he taught us how to apply an analytic framework to legal questions that has proven invaluable. I'm biased though as I love Torts and will probably teach the subject at some point. Vermont is also a cool guy and very laid back (he bought a bunch of my friends a round of drinks at a local bar after running into them on a weekend).

Claeys: I haven't taken a class with Claey's but I've chatted with him and my friends have taken classes with him. The man is brilliant, plain and simple. He was the last person from USC to clerk for the Supreme Court and he is a true academic. One of my friends stated that his head hurt after class because everything the man said was genius.

Krauss: Students either love him or hate him. He has VERY strong opinions on many subjects and will subject you to them but he's also very intelligent and intellectual. I found that students tend to both enjoy the class and learn a great deal.


Claeys: See above.

Eagle: Most students hated him. I loved his class. Let me start off by saying that he is NOT a nice man. If you are unprepared for class, he will ask intentionally embarrass you in front of your peers. Lesson: Don't come to class unprepared. He teaches using the traditional socratic method and is merciless. He has on occasion questioned students for 15 minutes to the point where they just gave up in agony. He will push you to master the material - whether you want to or not. However, his exam has absolutely nothing to do with the class. The exam is all black-letter law. Memorize Gilberts, spend your time studying ExamPro, and you'll do fine. I did just that and got an A+. Don't be scared by ExamPro. It's suppoesd to be incredibly difficult. Expect to get about half the questions wrong before studying; if you can get up to 80-90% when you've finished studying, you'll be guaranteed an A.


Davies: A very smart man with bizarre views on grading. He decided to have group exams in the Spring in which groups of 3-4 took the exam, however there were also individuals taking the SAME exam alone giving the groups a huge advantage due to issues of time allocation.

Byrne: Strong emphasis on practice and practical experience. Rarely lectures. I found his exams to be absurdly ambiguous in about every conceivable manner - Contracts was the only substantive class in which I received lower than an A or A+. That said, the man loves his students. You will not find a more dedicated professor, or one that cares more about his students success. I spoke to Byrne after literally every class, went to dinner with him on several occasions, and am currently working with him at his Institute of International Banking Law & Practice. He also wrote me an incredibly glowing law school rec and personally called the dean of Admissions at Penn on my behalf. Byrne is an amazing professor to befriend as he will go to bat for you and do anything in his power to maximize your career success.

Byrne is one of the world's preeminent experts on Letters of Credit and International Banking Law. If you have any interest in the area, be sure to take Commercial Paper and International Commercial Transactions with him.

Economic Foundations of Legal Studies:

Hazlett: You couldn't find a more qualified professor. Hazlett was the Chief Economist at the FCC and is currently the head expert in the multi-billion dollar XM-Sirius merger. I ended up knowing more about the merger than my friend who interned at the FCC, and all the T14 students there knew of Hazlett and revered him. He teaches a basic Econ 101 course with application to black-letter-law. I found the course very useful


Hodge: One word: incompetent. She will drone on about the need to produce quality work product yet every document she provided us had multiple spelling and grammatical errors, some in the first line of text. She had very little substantive knowledge in any legal area, gained her J.D. from GMU when it was TTT and her lectures are at best useless. I have no idea why she didn't just email us the powerpoint slides as class was essentially her reading through her slides and asking students asinine questions. Hodge is a remnant of our TTT past. Fortunately, I have heard through the grapevine that GMU is interviewing for a replacement and she is not teaching LRWA in the fall. I pray these rumors are true.

Hope this helps. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about GMU.

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