Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby hwmyones » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:08 pm

i play on 360...love fifa though

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby BJK1903 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:58 pm

twotonethegreat wrote:I've got a ps3 with hd cables, any fifa players out there?


Hells yeah. FIFA rocks.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby smc5784 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:35 pm

BJK1903 wrote:
twotonethegreat wrote:I've got a ps3 with hd cables, any fifa players out there?


Hells yeah. FIFA rocks.


Soccer, in any form, makes me vomit.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby hwmyones » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:55 pm

cough cough, hornets up 2-0...cough...

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby 20090922 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:33 pm

I'm sure they'll win the series, too.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby smc5784 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:34 pm

2-0 also happens to be a soccer blowout.

Gotta love it!

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby nicola.kirwan » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:43 pm

lukertin wrote:
nicola.kirwan wrote:Oh, and STL is a great place to be in Spring, Summer, and Fall.

Why? What happens in the winter?


Boredom, and a lack of aesthetic appeal. A lot of what is fun about Saint Louis IMO are the parks, the outdoor theatre, the neighborhoods you can walk around in, the frozen custard stands (which St. Louisans are serious about), and the abundance of trees...the vast majority of which lose their leaves in winter. After living in Philly I can't say that STL has much of a restaurant scene at all (though there are a few good places). But, St. Louis is very much into the arts, so if you are too, you should be able to keep yourself occupied. And, if you like sports, you should be pretty happy too.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby hwmyones » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:01 pm

I don't know if I wholeheartedly agree. Don't forget, from a male's perspective, there are plenty of different areas of bars, multiple casinos, a beer factory, multiple universities, and like she said, football, baseball, and that canadian sport with sticks. I'm excited.

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Postby 20090922 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:20 pm

Lol, my friends who have been to Philly say that it is the worst city they have ever been in (which is saying something since one of them spent the entire summer sitting around in his room because he was so bored). As long as the winters pack snow I don't think I can ever be bored...

The Canadian sport with sticks is really fun, the other day I was playing it and in the process of scoring a goal I slammed full speed into the goalie and the goal net, knocking both of them down, with me falling on top of a corner of the goal (ow). It was hilarious!

Do you guys think bringing a car (assuming I somehow manage to afford doing so) would be a good idea?

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Postby nicola.kirwan » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:23 am

lukertin wrote:Lol, my friends who have been to Philly say that it is the worst city they have ever been in (which is saying something since one of them spent the entire summer sitting around in his room because he was so bored). As long as the winters pack snow I don't think I can ever be bored...


Hmm...not sure what to say to that. There is a lot to do in Philly. Admittedly, though, I am looking forward to leaving. People just aren't very nice here. And when I visited home the last time, I really appreciated how clean the streets were in St. Louis, even in the rougher areas. Philadelphia does have some really good places to eat, though.

And unfortunately, St. Louis winters may or may not yield snow. The whole el nino/nina/global warming thing. The winters are kind of unpredictable.

lukertin wrote:Do you guys think bringing a car (assuming I somehow manage to afford doing so) would be a good idea?


I'm not sure where you're from, but the bus system in STL is not a particularly reliable way to get around since the buses don't come often enough or necessarily on time (at least when I was riding them). The MetroLink is nice...if you happen to be going where it goes. St. Louis is definitely a driving city of sprawling suburbs. But, if you don't have relatives and friends and whatnot that live all over the place, you might not miss it. Still, not having a car would be more limiting there than in bigger cities.
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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby nicola.kirwan » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:27 am

hwmyones wrote:I don't know if I wholeheartedly agree. Don't forget, from a male's perspective, there are plenty of different areas of bars, multiple casinos, a beer factory, multiple universities, and like she said, football, baseball, and that canadian sport with sticks. I'm excited.



Good point. Being neither a drinker, a gambler, nor a sports fan, my perspective's limited. I do know lots of people different than myself that keep themselves plenty amused year-round.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby Rolloss » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:32 am

lukertin wrote:Do you guys think bringing a car (assuming I somehow manage to afford doing so) would be a good idea?


I would highly recommend bringing a car. Finding parking around the city isn't nearly as difficult as it is in some other cities and our public transportation system really isn't very well developed. Without a car large portions of the city and practically all of the surrounding suburbs would be difficult to visit. All of the students I talked to during the ASD drove to campus despite having metrolink cards provided by the school.

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Postby 20090922 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:36 am

nicola.kirwan wrote:Hmm...not sure what to say to that. There is a lot to do in Philly. Admittedly, though, I am looking forward to leaving. People just aren't very nice here. And when I visited home the last time, I really appreciated how clean the streets were in St. Louis, even in the rougher areas. Philadelphia does have some really good places to eat, though.

I think they were biased on account of going there after two years of being in NYC. One of them spent 3 months there and didn't get a cheesesteak once, despite my telling him to do so like every week.

And unfortunately, St. Louis winters may or may not yield snow. The whole el nino/nina/global warming thing. The winters are kind of unpredictable.

It doesn't seem to snow -anywhere- anymore, except for near the great lakes, it makes me angry!

I'm not sure where you're from, but the bus system in STL is not a particularly reliable way to get around since the buses don't come often enough or necessarily on time (at least when I was riding them). The MetroLink is nice...if you happen to be going where it goes. St. Louis is definitely a driving city of sprawling suburbs. But, if you don't have relatives and friends and whatnot that live all over the place, you might not miss it. Still, not having a car would be more limiting there than in bigger cities.

Coming from NYC and Boston, your description kind of scares me.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby wustl3l » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:38 am

lukertin wrote:

Do you guys think bringing a car (assuming I somehow manage to afford doing so) would be a good idea?


You can certainly get by without one. I know someone who went to WUSTL undergrad and law without a car. You certainly can get everything you need by just staying in the CWE and U-City. However, it will be a pain if you want to leave the immediate area to say go shopping or meet people in the other areas of town.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby nicola.kirwan » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:45 am

lukertin wrote:Coming from NYC and Boston, your description kind of scares me.


Ok...if you're from NYC, St. Louis doesn't have a public transportation system.

Overstated? Eh, not really. You can get around somewhat, but only to very certain places.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby wustl3l » Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:20 am

If you want an idea of how long it would take to get somewhere on public transit, go here:

http://tripfinder.metrostlouis.org/

Plug in the campus to your apt and then to someplace like the Galleria mall or the ballpark.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby hwmyones » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:04 am

i mean, i'm bringing a car..still in the process of finding an apt. that'll make sure it stays safe...
I will say i took the metrolink to the landing the weekend I was there for ASD...it doesn't come very often..it had some characters on it..but i mean..for the nights you dont want to go to Bar Louie (from what I've heard, the most popular law school student hang out)..and want to get great drink specials with random people, there are like 5 bars right off the stop for the Landing. BUT, and this is a big but, I'm almost positive the trains stopped running like an hour and a half before the bars closed. Everyone took cabs back, which kind of offset the cheapness of the drinks. I'm pretty sure i'll be sticking to CWE, Clayton, and the Loop...If worst comes to worst we can all just fall asleep in the park, right? Okay, i totally made that up

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby wustl3l » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:39 am

Yes, most people hang out in the CWE, Loop, and Clayton. Sometimes the landing, Soulard, dogtown, and Washington Ave (downtown) for a change of pace. Soulard hosts mardi gras and Dogtown St. Patty's day.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby nicola.kirwan » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:26 am

wustl3l wrote:
smc5784 wrote:Interesting. I wonder in what ways that attitude acutally manifests itself (for someone who's lived there for a while).


I can give you a good example. I befriended a local through a mutual friend. Lives in the same neighborhood. We get along pretty well and I started to feel like I was breaking in because he'd call every now and then to see if I wanted to meet him and his friends out. He has known these friends since junior high. That was until I realized that he and his friends go out every weekend together and have dinner together throughout the week and he was just throwing me a bone like once a month.

Not that I don't like the guy or that I feel slighted but it was interesting to understand the depths of the roots.

Another example is the guy who I mentioned earlier. He said that he has one main competitor for what he sells. His competition is a local and he says that he knows there are just some people he can't call on because he's not a local no matter what price he comes in at.


That's interesting...on one hand, I can definitely say that all the people I went to grade school with (beginning in kindergarten) are all basically still friends with one another, in pretty much the same groups we were friends with when we went off to high school...and then everyone remained really close to their high school friends too. Those are probably the people I'll be hanging with a lot when I get back. So, yeah, the community roots go ultra-deep. (Oh, yeah, and I had a great time with the Dean of Admissions talking about how I went to the same high school as her grandmother and aunts and cousins.)

I must say, though, I've never actually talked to someone who had moved to St. Louis to know what they thought about "fitting in." I think I assumed that people would feel welcome since St. Louisans are typically much more open with their lives and letting other people into them than I've experienced in bigger cities/on the East coast. Maybe the depth of the roots can create more of a perceived barrier than an actual one (friendship-wise)?

I dunno. It's interesting to see this stuff from other people's perspective.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby wustl3l » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:49 am

I've lived in and spent a good amount of time in big cities and I found them a little more open because there is a lot more transience. You certainly aren't going to break in with some social scene in NYC with people who all went to the same elite school but because there are tons of people moving there and looking for other people to hang out I never found it hard to break in.

But I find people in St. Louis are largely St. Louisians and there aren't tons of people moving in except students. And unsurprisingly the students hang out with themselves. And yeah, I guess a lot of it is a perceived barrier but it's also awfully awkward to try and interject yourself into a group who have all known each other for 15+ years.

The other thing I find strange is that St. Louisians seem pretty self-concious about their love of St. Louis. They find it strange, almost unbelievable, that outsiders would really love it here. That is especially true of the local bar which is why the non-local WUSTL grads have hard times getting places at firms.

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Postby nicola.kirwan » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:03 am

wustl3l wrote:The other thing I find strange is that St. Louisians seem pretty self-concious about their love of St. Louis. They find it strange, almost unbelievable, that outsiders would really love it here. That is especially true of the local bar which is why the non-local WUSTL grads have hard times getting places at firms.


Yeah...that's a funny one. I think St. Louis is cool, but I feel kind of apologetic about it. It has a humble place next to venues like NYC, DC, and SanFran, but it really shouldn't even be thought of as being in the same category. I mean, I couldn't really see someone moving to STL (outside of school), though I could see why they might stay there. Weird.

Looking forward to the Fall!

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby 20090922 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:45 am

Sounds like St Louisans redefined the meaning of the word 'townie'.

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby hwmyones » Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:54 pm

Well...we're just going to have to come and extend the olive branch as the outsiders...when i was there, I went to a few bars that were mostly locals and not students and they all seemed quite friendly

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby uclastarshield » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:56 pm

From experience, I can tell you it's still snows in Oregon, infact, more so than previously. Usually it only snowed once every couple of years, the past two years half the state has been shut down for a week cause of the snow. Our rivers are flowing massive, so good for the electricity we sell california.

So what time are people planning on moving to STL? At the ASD, they recommended two weeks to get settled in the city. Last time I moved, I gave myself about that much time. Anyone thinking of any get togethers for the early-birds?

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Re: Washington University in St. Louis Class of '11

Postby hwmyones » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:18 pm

I'm probably coming August 10th or so. That's 8 days before orientation. We had already talked about something like that, I'm sure we'll use the facebook group to get as many people as we can together for a few drinks just to meet each other.




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