GI Bill Yellow Ribbon Program Forum

[LSATfromNC]

Making a thread so I can track schools status on whether they are participating. If you have any thing to add just post it.


o Abraham Lincoln University School of Law
o Albany Law School of Union University
o American College of Law
o American University
o Appalachian School of Law
o Arizona State University
o Ave Maria School of Law
o University of Akron Law School
o University of Alabama Law School
o University of Arizona
o University of Arkansas, Fayetteville
o University of Arkansas, Little Rock

o Barry University, Orlando Campus
o Baylor University
o Birmingham School of Law
o Boston College
o Boston University
o Brigham Young University
o Brooklyn Law School
o University of Baltimore

o California School of Law California School of Law a leading online law school and on line degree program, providing cutting edge legal education, jd doctorate, live classrooms, yearly enrollment.
o California Western
o Campbell University
o Capital University
o Case Western Reserve University NO
o Catholic University Of America
o Chapman University School of Law
o Charleston School of Law
o Chicago-Kent College of Law
o Cleveland State University
o Columbia University
o Concord Law School - Online Law School
o Cornell University
o Creighton University School of Law
o University of California, Berkeley - Boalt Hall NO
o University of California, Davis
o University of California, Hastings
o University of California, Los Angeles
o University of Chicago YES
o University of Cincinnati
o University of Colorado
o University of Connecticut

o DePaul University
o Dickinson School of Law, Penn State YES
o Drake University
o Duke University NO
o Duquesne University
o Michigan State University College of Law NO (at this point)
o University of Dayton
o University of Denver
o University of Detroit
o University of the District of Columbia David A. Clarke School of Law

o Elon University School of Law
o Emory University
o Empire College School of Law
o Faulkner University Thomas Goode Jones School of Law
o Florida Coastal School of Law
o Florida State University YES
o Fordham Law School YES
o Franklin Pierce Law Center
o University of Florida

o George Mason University
o George Washington University YES
o Georgetown University
o Georgia State University
o Glendale University College of Law
o Golden Gate University
o Gonzaga University
o University of Georgia

o Hamline University
o Harvard Law School
o Hofstra University
o Howard University
o University of Hawaii, Manoa
o University of Houston

o Indiana University, Bloomington NO
o Indiana University, Indianapolis
o Inland Valley University
o Irvine University
o University of Idaho
o University of Illinois Yes
o University of Iowa

o John F. Kennedy University School Of Law
o John Marshall Law School - Atlanta
o The John Marshall Law School

o University of Kansas
o University of Kentucky

o Lewis and Clark College -
Northwestern School of Law Yes (per all Illinois schools participating)
o Liberty University School of Law
o Lincoln Law School of Sacramento
o Lincoln Law School of San Jose
o Louisiana State University
o Loyola Law School Los Angeles
o Loyola University, Chicago
o Loyola University, New Orleans
o University of La Verne
o University of Louisville, Louis D. Brandeis School of Law

o Marquette University
o Massachusetts School of Law
o Mercer University Walter F. George School of Law
o Mississippi College School of Law
o Monterey College of Law
o University of Maine
o University of Maryland
o University of Memphis Cecil C. Humphreys School of Law
o University of Miami NO
o University of Michigan
o University Of Minnesota
o University of Mississippi
o University of Missouri, Columbia
o University of Missouri, Kansas City
o University of Montana

o City University of New York
o New College of California School of Law
o New England School of Law
o New York Law School
o New York University
o North Carolina Central University
o Northeastern University
o Northern Illinois University
o Northern Kentucky University
o Northwestern California University
o Northwestern University
o Nova Southeastern University
o State University of New York - Buffalo
o University of Nebraska
o University of Nevada, Las Vegas
o University of New Mexico
o University of North Carolina
o University of North Dakota
o University of Notre Dame

o Oak Brook College of Law
o Ohio Northern University - Claude W. Pettit College of Law
o Ohio State University
o Oklahoma City University

o University of Oklahoma
o University of Oregon

o Pace University
o Pacific Coast University School of Law
o Pacific West College of Law
o Peoples College ofLaw
o Pepperdine University
o Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico School of Law Puerto Rico
o University of Pennsylvania
o University of Pittsburgh
o University of Puerto Rico School of Law Puerto Rico
o University of the Pacific - McGeorge School of Law

o Quinnipiac University School of Law

o Regent University School of Law
o Roger Williams School of Law
o Rutgers University, Camden
o Rutgers University, Newark
o University of Richmond

o Samford University
o San Francisco Law School
o Santa Barbara and Ventura Colleges of Law
o Santa Clara University
o Seattle University Law School
o Seton Hall University
o South Texas College of Law
o Southern California Institute of Law
o Southern Illinois University
o Southern Methodist University
o Southern New England School of Law
o Southwestern University
o St. John's University
o St. Louis University NO
o St. Mary's University
o St. Thomas University School of Law
o Stanford University
o Stetson University
o Suffolk University
o Syracuse University
o University of San Diego
o University of San Francisco
o University of Silicon Valley Law School
o University of South Carolina
o University of South Dakota
o University of Southern California
o University of St. Thomas School of Law

o Temple University
o Texas Southern University - Thurgood Marshall School of Law
o Texas Tech University
o Texas Wesleyan University School of Law
o Thomas Jefferson School of Law
o Thomas M. Cooley Law School
o Touro College - Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center
o Trinity Law School
o Tulane University
o University of Tennessee
o University of Texas
o University of Toledo
o University of Tulsa

o University of Utah

o University of Virginia
o Valparaiso University
o Vanderbilt University
o Vermont Law School
o Villanova University

o College of William and Mary Marshall-Whythe School of Law
o University of Washington
o University of West Los Angeles School of Law and Paralegal Studies
o University of Wisconsin
o University of Wyoming
o Wake Forest University NO
o Washburn University
o Washington and Lee University
o Washington University
o Wayne State University
o West Virginia University
o Western New England College
o Western State University College of Law
o Whittier College
o Widener University
o Willamette University
o William Mitchell College of Law

o Yale University
o Yeshiva University

[Rotor]

Excellent thread NC!

Unfortunately, I don't have any details to add yet, but certainly will once I start trying to negotiate my FA pkg. I had already planned on using the YRP to leverage offers.

Do you know whether it's an all or nothing program? Or can a school say they'll contribute $X and VA will match even if it doesn't go to full tuition? I think so, but haven't seen a good answer yet.

For others viewing the thread, don't forget to check out http://www.gibill.va.gov

Program is still being developed, but it's a good starting point.

[LSATfromNC]

They do not have to go to full tuition, but VA will match up to 5k extra I believe. Nothing appears locked in stone, so anything can change.
VA is not going to put up a list of Yellow Ribbon Participants until after April, well after most of us will have to make a decision. So I am attempting to sort out some of the schools on my own.

[nukelaloosh]

They do not have to go to full tuition, but VA will match up to 5k extra I believe. Nothing appears locked in stone, so anything can change.
VA is not going to put up a list of Yellow Ribbon Participants until after April, well after most of us will have to make a decision. So I am attempting to sort out some of the schools on my own.

Excellent thread. I will be asking my target schools this when I call to negotiate FA. I'll let you know what they say as soon as I hear.

[joehad7]

Thanks for the thread! Along the lines of Nuke, I'll be posing this same question when I call to negotiate aid. It is somewhat unfortunate that we didn't have this information before we applied, as it would have had quite an effect on my choices for targets/safeties.

[Rotor]

Thanks for the thread! Along the lines of Nuke, I'll be posing this same question when I call to negotiate aid. It is somewhat unfortunate that we didn't have this information before we applied, as it would have had quite an effect on my choices for targets/safeties.

The fact that we have it at all before starting LS is a bonus! Thank you Sen Webb!

Though I must admit I'm not looking forward to being the VA's guinnea pig. Shinseki is an AWESOME choice for Secy but he's no miracle worker.

[joehad7]

Thanks for the thread! Along the lines of Nuke, I'll be posing this same question when I call to negotiate aid. It is somewhat unfortunate that we didn't have this information before we applied, as it would have had quite an effect on my choices for targets/safeties.

The fact that we have it at all before starting LS is a bonus! Thank you Sen Webb!

Though I must admit I'm not looking forward to being the VA's guinnea pig.

Agreed. BTW, Congrats on Boalt!

[mycousinvinny]

Think they should also make it a rule that veterens get in state tution for any school they decide to go, if applicable. When you go to that state on active duty you get in state rate for school you attend, so why not vets. Would make decisions easy for some of us I would think

[Globalnomad]

Think they should also make it a rule that veterens get in state tution for any school they decide to go, if applicable. When you go to that state on active duty you get in state rate for school you attend, so why not vets. Would make decisions easy for some of us I would think

That would be too good, I wonder if going active reserve would get me instate tuition.

[LSATfromNC]

Think they should also make it a rule that veterens get in state tution for any school they decide to go, if applicable. When you go to that state on active duty you get in state rate for school you attend, so why not vets. Would make decisions easy for some of us I would think

That would be too good, I wonder if going active reserve would get me instate tuition.

Are you talking about AGR, or switching from IRR to regular reserve status? I have contemplated joining part time, would be some nice ta in addition to being able to play army.

[Globalnomad]

IRR to regular active reserve, I'm a Navy vet so National Guard not really an option for me.

[Rotor]

Agreed. BTW, Congrats on Boalt!

Thx!

[BaronDetroit]

Can someone explain what the difference is between the regular GI Bill and the GI Bill Yellow Ribbon Program?

I used the regular GI Bill in undergrad and it worked out well. Pretty much paid all the tuition and books when you added up the payments for the semester. I was enlisted from 1997 until 2002.

Is the Yellow Ribbon potentially additional money?

[Mr. Costello]

I have nothing to add to the content of this discussion - just wanted to thank you all for your service!

[Globalnomad]

It's kind of a top up with the new GI Bill, I guess some one at the VA had enough common sense to realize even with the new GI Bill some people's tuition is going to be higher than the new GI Bill rate; so the VA and participating schools are trying to work something out to get us some extra cash about $5-10K per year. You need to be in the post 9/11 GI Bill program to get any yellow ribbon benefits, so if you used all of your benefits already you are probably out of luck. definitely go look on the VA website or call your rep.

[Rotor]

Can someone explain what the difference is between the regular GI Bill and the GI Bill Yellow Ribbon Program?

I used the regular GI Bill in undergrad and it worked out well. Pretty much paid all the tuition and books when you added up the payments for the semester. I was enlisted from 1997 until 2002.

Is the Yellow Ribbon potentially additional money?

The YRP is a part of the Post 9/11 GI Bill. It doesn't work in conjunction with MGIB. I'm not as familiar with MGIB, but if you have used all of that eligibility, you can't use the new bill.

Sorry. (but to be sure, check with the VA to determine eligibility for sure.)

Edit: ^^ beat me to it. Posting mostly as confirmation.

[LSATfromNC]

Even if you have used all 36 months of your benefits you may still get something. If you have qualifying time on active duty after 9/11 you may qualify for the BAR exam fee ect. Also I have not heard from any other schools on their status.

[dapoetic1]

Can someone explain what the difference is between the regular GI Bill and the GI Bill Yellow Ribbon Program?

I used the regular GI Bill in undergrad and it worked out well. Pretty much paid all the tuition and books when you added up the payments for the semester. I was enlisted from 1997 until 2002.

Is the Yellow Ribbon potentially additional money?

-In order to be eligible for the Yellow Ribbon Program you have to be eligible for the post 9/11 GI Bill
-Although there is no longer a buy in ($1200) you must be on active duty for 3 years after 9/11 to be eligible for 100% of the benefits. Any time less than that the eligibility is decreased.

The post 9/11 GI Bill will pay tuition to a school up to the maximum of the most expensive undergraduate public school's tuition for that state. (For ex. Penn State has the highes undergrad tuition in PA so if you attend any school in PA you will get roughly $10,000 towards tuition)
Obivoulsy grad/law/medical school is more expensive than undergrad and private school is more expensive than public. So the YRP is an optional agreement that private schools may choose to go into with the VA. Under this program the school can choose to take the difference of the tuition (after the new GI Bill benefit has been paid out) and if they agree the VA will match dollar for dollar what the school is willing to match up to full tuition.

Ex. Let's say you get into UPenn and their tuition is $40,000. As stated above you get $10,000 for attending any school in PA because that's how much the most expensive public school's undergrad tuition is. That leaves $30,000 in tuition you owe. If UPenn agrees to the YRB they will pay $15,000 and the VA will match the other $15,00-thus giving you free tuition. The schools however can agree to pay any amount up to the amount that would give you full tuition. So UPenn could agree to give you $10,000 and the VA would come up with the other $10,000 (not including the $10,000 from GI BIll) that covers $30,000 of your $40,000 so you would have to come up wit the other $10,000.

So the YRB is optional and can be given from the school in any amount in the tuition left over. I've attached an article that talks about the program and how the financial crisis is affecting a lot of schools' decisions to paticipate.

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,183503,00.html

[dapoetic1]

Bump

Indiana Bloomington--is a No for YRP per the Dean of Financial Aid

[scott82]

FWIW, I'm part of a group that wrote and lobbied for legislation (still in sub-committee) to have Iowa grant all veterans and their families the in-state tuition rate at public universities (similar to Ohio's plan) and also for a program to match up to $18,000 in post-grad student loans for those vets who stay and work in the state after graduation.

It's a hard sell right now given the economy, but Iowa really needs to attract young skilled workers to fill an anticipated deficit of 150,000 by 2012. Fingers crossed.

[nukelaloosh]

http://www.gibill.va.gov/GI_Bill_Info/C ... d_fees.htm

Has anyone seen this chart? Does "per term" mean academic year or semester? The Texas "per term" amount of $12130 seems like it must mean academic year, but other states are so low it seems that it can't mean academic year.

[Cole S. Law]

Ohio gives instate tuition to all veterans. That gives you access to some pretty great values for legal education at Ohio State and U of Cinci. I think the instate tuition is like 18K at both.

[Globalnomad]

http://www.gibill.va.gov/GI_Bill_Info/C ... d_fees.htm

Has anyone seen this chart? Does "per term" mean academic year or semester? The Texas "per term" amount of $12130 seems like it must mean academic year, but other states are so low it seems that it can't mean academic year.

Yea, it's kinda bizzare. Highest undergrad tuition in WA is $6,000, and they have $4,000 down on the list. But they do warn you....

This information has no relationship to, and should not be compared with, average costs of tuition and fees of public institutions within any state commonly referred to when considering educational options.

They do say that it is preliminary info, I bet you it'll probably end up changing again. Otherwise, standing by to get screwed.

[LSATfromNC]

Ohio gives instate tuition to all veterans. That gives you access to some pretty great values for legal education at Ohio State and U of Cinci. I think the instate tuition is like 18K at both.

Now you tell me!

[scott82]

Ohio gives instate tuition to all veterans. That gives you access to some pretty great values for legal education at Ohio State and U of Cinci. I think the instate tuition is like 18K at both.

Now you tell me!

Only been the case for about 6 months. Kudos to Ohio though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/education/09vets.html