Am I a URM???/Is___ race/circumstance considered URM??

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Postby Nom Sawyer » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:02 am

am060459 wrote:"Yes, there are a lot of lawyers. But, there are not a lot of Latino lawyers, African American lawyers, Asian lawyers, Native American lawyers. Minorities are still greatly underrepresented in the legal profession."

http://lsac.org/SpecialInterests/minori ... -to-ls.asp


To promote diversity, law schools actively seek qualified African American, Latino, Asian, and Native American students, as well as other students of color.

http://lsac.org/SpecialInterests/minori ... on-faq.asp


Who are qualified Asians?


Law schools actively seek Asians with 3.8+ GPAs and 170+ LSATs to add much needed diversity and increase representation in the legal field. In fact, law schools will boost their admission chances by judging their LSAT score "as-is", instead of subtracting 3~4 points first. Also most schools will take an Asian's highest LSAT score if he retakes.

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Re: Am I a URM???/Is___ race/circumstance considered URM??

Postby yung » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:08 pm

I'm a NATIVE TAIWANESE (not chinese, before chinese came to Taiwan, just like native americans were) does this count me as urm? or do I circle Asian or do I circle pacific islander

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Postby yung » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:20 pm

Sorry just want to clarify some more: I am NOT any kind of Chinese at all (not any kind of Han) We are extreme minority even in the island of Taiwan

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Postby dudester » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:25 pm

yung wrote:Sorry just want to clarify some more: I am NOT any kind of Chinese at all (not any kind of Han) We are extreme minority even in the island of Taiwan


Taiwanese (native or not) = Asian = not URM.

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Postby MC Southstar » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:34 pm

dudester wrote:
yung wrote:Sorry just want to clarify some more: I am NOT any kind of Chinese at all (not any kind of Han) We are extreme minority even in the island of Taiwan


Taiwanese (native or not) = Asian = not URM.


I would say Pacific Islander, I'm not sure they get any kind of special consideration though. Do you think native Taiwanese are actually functionally different from immigrant Taiwanese in this day and age? I don't really know that much about it, everyone just says they're Taiwanese even when they're not native.

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Postby vanwinkle » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:39 pm

You could put Pacific Islander probably, but I don't know whether that's URM or not. It's not one of the obviously recognized URM groups (which are Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, African-American, and Native American) so I suspect no, but there's no real clear data on it either way.

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Postby dudester » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:54 pm

vanwinkle wrote:You could put Pacific Islander probably, but I don't know whether that's URM or not. It's not one of the obviously recognized URM groups (which are Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, African-American, and Native American) so I suspect no, but there's no real clear data on it either way.


I believe Taiwanese people are Asians not Pacific Islanders. I don't care enough to discuss it. Do your thing OP.

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Postby MC Southstar » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:55 pm

dudester wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:You could put Pacific Islander probably, but I don't know whether that's URM or not. It's not one of the obviously recognized URM groups (which are Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, African-American, and Native American) so I suspect no, but there's no real clear data on it either way.


I believe Taiwanese people are Asians not Pacific Islanders. I don't care enough to discuss it. Do your thing OP.


Native Taiwanese are more ethnically tied to Pacific Islanders, not East Asians.

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Postby vanwinkle » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:56 pm

dudester wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:You could put Pacific Islander probably, but I don't know whether that's URM or not. It's not one of the obviously recognized URM groups (which are Mexican-American, Puerto Rican, African-American, and Native American) so I suspect no, but there's no real clear data on it either way.


I believe Taiwanese people are Asians not Pacific Islanders. I don't care enough to discuss it. Do your thing OP.


Honestly I don't care enough to research it myself, that's up to OP IMO. I was just saying that even if he did that I don't know whether that'd be a URM or not, and probably not, so either way he loses.

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Postby Drake014 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:00 am

r6_philly wrote:lol if you are URM, your son can't be white...

Everyone who is legally and biologically related to me in this country is URM, does that make me URM?


I don't buy the one drop rule. Its quite likely that some or all of my children will appear visibly white. Kinda bugs me sometimes.

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Postby latinolaw » Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:32 pm

My father is Mexican, my mother American. I grew up in several Latin American countries. Am I URM?

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Postby r6_philly » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:44 pm

Drake014 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:lol if you are URM, your son can't be white...

Everyone who is legally and biologically related to me in this country is URM, does that make me URM?


I don't buy the one drop rule. Its quite likely that some or all of my children will appear visibly white. Kinda bugs me sometimes.



You forgot Homer Plessy is 1/8 black?

My son is half black and will definitely identify with blacks.

But my point was if my social identification is black but my skin color is not what does that make me?

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Postby vanwinkle » Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:08 pm

latinolaw wrote:My father is Mexican, my mother American. I grew up in several Latin American countries. Am I URM?

If you choose "Hispanic - Mexican" on your applications, then yes, you will be.

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Re: Am I a URM???/Is___ race/circumstance considered URM??

Postby schuywalker » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:29 am

The US Census categorizes pacific islanders as :

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands. It includes people who indicate their race as "Native Hawaiian," "Guamanian or Chamorro," "Samoan," and "Other Pacific Islander."


you would not be considered a pacific islander

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Postby BenJ » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:16 pm

I've heard of Filipinos claiming to be Pacific Islanders before, but it's almost certainly not intended to include them (or native Taiwanese). It's never worth lying about these sorts of things. Just write a diversity statement about being native Taiwanese if you have some interesting experience to share; native Taiwanese is an unusual group and could get some adcomms a little interested.

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Postby Raven1228 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:16 pm

Hi,

My mother was born in Peru, and while I've read that South American hispanics are not considered URM, my dad was born in England. Does this unusual mix give me any leeway at all?

I marked my ethnicity as European/Hispanic. I understand neither is URM by itself, but do you think the combination counts for anything?

Thanks so much,

Steven

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Postby Anastasia Dee Dualla » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:17 pm

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Re: Am I a URM???/Is___ race/circumstance considered URM??

Postby Drake014 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:42 pm

r6_philly wrote:
Drake014 wrote:
r6_philly wrote:lol if you are URM, your son can't be white...

Everyone who is legally and biologically related to me in this country is URM, does that make me URM?


I don't buy the one drop rule. Its quite likely that some or all of my children will appear visibly white. Kinda bugs me sometimes.



You forgot Homer Plessy is 1/8 black?

My son is half black and will definitely identify with blacks.

But my point was if my social identification is black but my skin color is not what does that make me?


My fiancee has a similar situation. You're white but write a diversity statement. If you grew up poor, be sure to include that.

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Re: Am I a URM???/Is___ race/circumstance considered URM??

Postby Drake014 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:44 pm

shadowfrost000 wrote:
dudester wrote:
yung wrote:Sorry just want to clarify some more: I am NOT any kind of Chinese at all (not any kind of Han) We are extreme minority even in the island of Taiwan


Taiwanese (native or not) = Asian = not URM.


I would say Pacific Islander, I'm not sure they get any kind of special consideration though. Do you think native Taiwanese are actually functionally different from immigrant Taiwanese in this day and age? I don't really know that much about it, everyone just says they're Taiwanese even when they're not native.


Kinda irrelevant. Chances are, native Taiwanese aren't under represented or significantly under represented in advanced degrees in the United States. For some reason, people seem to forget the UR in URM.

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Postby BenJ » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:28 am

Drake014 wrote:
shadowfrost000 wrote:
dudester wrote:
yung wrote:Sorry just want to clarify some more: I am NOT any kind of Chinese at all (not any kind of Han) We are extreme minority even in the island of Taiwan


Taiwanese (native or not) = Asian = not URM.


I would say Pacific Islander, I'm not sure they get any kind of special consideration though. Do you think native Taiwanese are actually functionally different from immigrant Taiwanese in this day and age? I don't really know that much about it, everyone just says they're Taiwanese even when they're not native.


Kinda irrelevant. Chances are, native Taiwanese aren't under represented or significantly under represented in advanced degrees in the United States. For some reason, people seem to forget the UR in URM.


Actually, they probably are. Native Taiwanese are much worse off than Han Taiwanese economically, although not destitute or anything (and usually because they tend to live in rural areas of Taiwan more than anything else). But there are so few in the US that "under-represented" is incredibly hard to measure.

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Postby kn6542 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:55 pm

r6_philly wrote:
But my point was if my social identification is black but my skin color is not what does that make me?



Irrational.

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Postby Raven1228 » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:12 am

hahahaha

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Postby MGH1989 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:09 pm

Ive posted this on another part of this forum, but I will ask it here. My mother was born and raised in Mexico City and my father is American. I was born in the U.S.

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Postby kn6542 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:11 pm

MGH1989 wrote:Ive posted this on another part of this forum, but I will ask it here. My mother was born and raised in Mexico City and my father is American. I was born in the U.S.

What's the Q?

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Postby MGH1989 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:15 pm

kn6542 wrote:
MGH1989 wrote:Ive posted this on another part of this forum, but I will ask it here. My mother was born and raised in Mexico City and my father is American. I was born in the U.S.

What's the Q?


Am I a URM or not?




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