URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby TAD » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:34 pm

youngwarrior wrote:
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brinicolec wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I mean... I'm not really sure if being Canadian will take away the minority aspect since you're still black.



It won't, I know two black canadian guys from my alma mater (University of Toronto) that attend YLS and they all both acknowledged receiving a boost, it's worth noting however that their numbers would have been extremely competitive even if they were not URMs.


Figured as much. Was just being neurotic. And, I'm pretty sure I know one of the guys you are referring to. Since his numbers were both above 75th, how would you conclude one received a boost when your numbers are that high?...just curious.


Well I know the boost applied to them but since both of them had insane numbers they probably would have gotten into YLS even with they didn't receive it. The thing is the black Canadians that apply to T-14 schools by and large are a very selective sample. Many black Canadians don't even know the boost applies to them and so when they apply to T-14, there GPA's and LSAT's tend to be at or exceed median. By contrast, the ones who have lower but still very impressive stats (i.e, 3.8-3.9 gpas and 164-169 lsats) will just apply to u of t/osgoode and won't even bother applying to hys because they have no idea that they'd receive a urm boost, and as a consequence think that they have no shot at being admitted. Because of this it's hard to ascertain whether or not the urm boost applies to black Canadians since the ones who apply most likely would have gotten into those schools without the boost. There's another black Canadian dude that I know who\s here on TLS, jnwa, his lsn is here: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/jnwa
He had a 3.3 and a 173, got CLS, NYU and a bunch of other great schools, he's currently attending the University of Michigan on a fullride. He had a killer lsat, but his gpa was less competitive and the boost definitely helped him.


That actually makes a lot of sense. I was actually going to retake my score until people on TLS told me that I should be fine with my score and the boost would apply to me. Never really fully accepted it but this helps a lot. Thanks for the info.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Baby Gaga » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:48 pm

TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I'm exactly at the LSAT median and already did JS1. Black and international (not Canadian tho)

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby TAD » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:25 pm

Baby Gaga wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I'm exactly at the LSAT median and already did JS1. Black and international (not Canadian tho)


If I remember correctly, you had an actual gpa though right? Instead of the international above average/average/superior ratings? US undergrad?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby latif » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:26 pm

I did my undergrad in Canada and have an actual LSAC GPA, TAD you dont?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Baby Gaga » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:28 pm

TAD wrote:
Baby Gaga wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I'm exactly at the LSAT median and already did JS1. Black and international (not Canadian tho)


If I remember correctly, you had an actual gpa though right? Instead of the international above average/average/superior ratings? US undergrad?


yup. US undergrad ( I still count as international though)

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby TAD » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:48 pm

Baby Gaga wrote:
TAD wrote:
Baby Gaga wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I'm exactly at the LSAT median and already did JS1. Black and international (not Canadian tho)


If I remember correctly, you had an actual gpa though right? Instead of the international above average/average/superior ratings? US undergrad?


yup. US undergrad ( I still count as international though)


Ya I know, but knowing you went to a US undergrad helps a little because the only URMs (international or not) I have seen that have gotten JS1s so far on TLS either have >50th lsats, still reside in the States, are citizens, or have had some kind of schooling or work experience there. Just pulling straws here.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby TAD » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:50 pm

latif wrote:I did my undergrad in Canada and have an actual LSAC GPA, TAD you dont?


No, I do.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby brinicolec » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:03 pm

If I could just get ONE acceptance this week... Lol.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby dietcoke1 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:35 pm

brinicolec wrote:If I could just get ONE acceptance this week... Lol.


seriously. I've been on a dry spell for over a month

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby HarvardHopeful95 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:11 pm

Just got accepted into Duke!

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby USayinBoalt » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:15 pm

HarvardHopeful95 wrote:Just got accepted into Duke!


Congrats!

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby youngwarrior » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:41 pm

TAD wrote:That actually makes a lot of sense. I was actually going to retake my score until people on TLS told me that I should be fine with my score and the boost would apply to me. Never really fully accepted it but this helps a lot. Thanks for the info.


Haha no problem, just relax, it's still early in the cycle and although it may seem like it, there is no real correlation between GPA/LSAT scores and when people get their JS1 and JS2's. You're going to get into Harvard and will probably sweep HYS, patience my friend.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby AJ1010 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:04 pm

TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby ac8876a » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:55 pm

AJ1010 wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.


when did you go complete?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby AJ1010 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:02 pm

ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.


when did you go complete?


A few days before Halloween, so around 10/28 or 10/29

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby TAD » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:15 pm

youngwarrior wrote:
TAD wrote:That actually makes a lot of sense. I was actually going to retake my score until people on TLS told me that I should be fine with my score and the boost would apply to me. Never really fully accepted it but this helps a lot. Thanks for the info.


Haha no problem, just relax, it's still early in the cycle and although it may seem like it, there is no real correlation between GPA/LSAT scores and when people get their JS1 and JS2's. You're going to get into Harvard and will probably sweep HYS, patience my friend.


Lol patience truly is a virtue

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby ac8876a » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:10 pm

AJ1010 wrote:
ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.


when did you go complete?


A few days before Halloween, so around 10/28 or 10/29


welp, looks like no JS1 for me

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby AJ1010 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:16 pm

ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.


when did you go complete?


A few days before Halloween, so around 10/28 or 10/29


welp, looks like no JS1 for me


It is way too soon to think that. I read through last year's thread and some people waited 3-4 months for JS1s. Some of those people ended up with JS2s. It seems like there is no pattern as to who has already received one.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby latif » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:49 pm

It would be good to know many people/what portion of the class is filled by February 1st, the deadline for Harvard. I'm planning to submit as soon as I have my LSAT score which should be on Jan 4th.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby ac8876a » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:21 pm

AJ1010 wrote:
ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.


when did you go complete?


A few days before Halloween, so around 10/28 or 10/29


welp, looks like no JS1 for me


It is way too soon to think that. I read through last year's thread and some people waited 3-4 months for JS1s. Some of those people ended up with JS2s. It seems like there is no pattern as to who has already received one.

Cuz I thought that since they do rolling, they go by the applications as they go complete?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby brinicolec » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:27 pm

ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
ac8876a wrote:
AJ1010 wrote:
TAD wrote:Has any URM below Harvard's median LSAT received a JS1 yet? At 25th LSAT and above 75th GPA and I'm just wondering if they're holding off until way later. Beginning to doubt whether I actually count as URM (I'm black Canadian).


I've received a JS1 and im below both 25ths.


when did you go complete?


A few days before Halloween, so around 10/28 or 10/29


welp, looks like no JS1 for me


It is way too soon to think that. I read through last year's thread and some people waited 3-4 months for JS1s. Some of those people ended up with JS2s. It seems like there is no pattern as to who has already received one.

Cuz I thought that since they do rolling, they go by the applications as they go complete?


I don't believe that's necessarily the case based on a MS9 blog post. He said they basically separate apps into groups: high LSAT, high GPA, other (and somewhere in there, diversity may also be taken into acct), and go through them in that order. Based on some acceptance waves I've seen, it seems believable. Also, I trust MS9 :lol: Don't give up yet!

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby latif » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:37 pm

That is interesting they sort into High GPA/LSAT. But something also tells me that they can sort according to demographic data too no? If enrolling URM's is a high priority, yet difficult to achieve, wouldn't it be one of the earliest considerations?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby brinicolec » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:43 pm

Got my first decision (acceptance, thank goodness) today and I gotta say, the weight that has been lifted off of my shoulders.... So great. I WILL be going to law school next fall for sure now! :lol:

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby brinicolec » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:44 pm

latif wrote:That is interesting they sort into High GPA/LSAT. But something also tells me that they can sort according to demographic data too no? If enrolling URM's is a high priority, yet difficult to achieve, wouldn't it be one of the earliest considerations?


Yeah, he didn't really get into that. I wonder if that becomes a "They have similar stats, they're a URM, let's admit them first" type thing or what...

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby USayinBoalt » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:51 pm

brinicolec wrote:Got my first decision (acceptance, thank goodness) today and I gotta say, the weight that has been lifted off of my shoulders.... So great. I WILL be going to law school next fall for sure now! :lol:


Congrats!!



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