URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Mr_Chukes » Tue May 02, 2017 12:05 am

smilingorch wrote:
Mr_Chukes wrote:How is everyone doing lol.


Just waited for an hour at a chicken restaurant for a to go meal because the server accidentally gave my food to another person. I wasn't even mad though. The girl who took my food made out like a fat rat. She knew good and well she didn't order that much chicken :lol: plus, I didn't have anything else to do since I had already finished work and don't have to study for anything anymore lol so it was chill

They came up, didn't waste no time to rush out lol. I feel you, you got time now.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Mr_Chukes » Tue May 02, 2017 12:05 am

Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.

Damn, I'd be hot to if I was going there lol

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Mr_Chukes » Tue May 02, 2017 12:06 am

brinicolec wrote:
Mr_Chukes wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Mr_Chukes wrote:How is everyone doing lol.


Leave to go to AA in like two weeks (a little less now :shock:), have constant internal conflict about public interest vs. corporate, still not exercising... Finally done working though, and Michigan's in the 70s while it's in the 50s here so.... could be better, could be worse lol

Fighting inner demons lol. I'm so happy for you that you leave so soon. I wish I was leaving sooner. I'm so sick of work. Ready to start this next chapter.


Honestly, truly to the bolded part. I really want to do public interest work but I really don't want to live a public interest work life salary-wise. So torn.

Also, yeah I'm glad I get to start soon but I'm also like "Ahhhh idk wtf to expect" lol

Yeah atleast you get to dive in and sooner than later you will know what you will do for sure lol.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Hi-So - ArshavinFan » Tue May 02, 2017 11:23 am

Hey everybody -

Writing a LOCI that I hope to send out tonight.
If you'd like to proofread, feel free to send a PM. Thanks to the people on here that have already offered to help!

Thanks!

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Hi-So - ArshavinFan » Tue May 02, 2017 12:31 pm

Mr_Chukes wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.

Damn, I'd be hot to if I was going there lol


BRUH - you dont understand.

Like of all schools - Colandrea had to go at NYU. I know its just a tv show - but watch Black Twitter start saying some nonsense like that and then someone saying it to me in real life....

#Woebetidethem

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby 20171lhopeful » Tue May 02, 2017 12:38 pm

Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
Mr_Chukes wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.

Damn, I'd be hot to if I was going there lol


BRUH - you dont understand.

Like of all schools - Colandrea had to go at NYU. I know its just a tv show - but watch Black Twitter start saying some nonsense like that and then someone saying it to me in real life....

#Woebetidethem


not gonna lie---i was feeling some type of way at the shade :roll:

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby crookedsmile » Tue May 02, 2017 12:51 pm

20171lhopeful wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
Mr_Chukes wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.

Damn, I'd be hot to if I was going there lol


BRUH - you dont understand.

Like of all schools - Colandrea had to go at NYU. I know its just a tv show - but watch Black Twitter start saying some nonsense like that and then someone saying it to me in real life....

#Woebetidethem


not gonna lie---i was feeling some type of way at the shade :roll:


Lol. Y'all make my day.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby hammy393 » Tue May 02, 2017 8:51 pm

2016 ABA employment reports came out recently. Chart form: https://www.reddit.com/r/lawschooladmis ... t_reports/

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby kbzon » Tue May 02, 2017 9:21 pm

does anyone know if there is any data out there for URM students accepted off the waitlist at Harvard?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby lula43 » Wed May 03, 2017 11:52 am

Did anyone else who applied for the Earl Warren scholly get any sort of confirmation?

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby hammy393 » Wed May 03, 2017 12:30 pm

kbzon wrote:does anyone know if there is any data out there for URM students accepted off the waitlist at Harvard?


I remember seeing some LSN WL data collected for URMs at HLS (and others), and it was unfortunately really bleak

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby suitsandpotions » Thu May 04, 2017 2:48 pm

brinicolec wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why are tv shows always throwing shade at NYU lol? I remember Blair Waldorf said something similar on Gossip Girl when she was talking about wanting to go to Yale lol

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby suitsandpotions » Thu May 04, 2017 4:36 pm

rwajo12 wrote:Do you guys think there is any benefit in starting to read the course books beforehand to get familiar with the material. I am really with my low Lsat score that I'm not as prepared as everyone else, and want to do whatever is necessary to get those grades! Any help is appreciated! :))



Not sure if anyone answered this question for you already but my friend from HLS said not to do this. He said that it's good to come to law school with a fresh mind and that it may do more harm than good if your burn yourself out during the few months when you still have a little bit of freedom to enjoy your life.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby suitsandpotions » Thu May 04, 2017 5:48 pm

This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?

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Postby hammy393 » Thu May 04, 2017 5:51 pm

suitsandpotions wrote:This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?


It's more about what the firms want and less about what SEO wants. From what I understand, firm X tells SEO that they'll only take students from schools X, Y, or Z, and SEO supplies them accordingly.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby brinicolec » Thu May 04, 2017 6:06 pm

hammy393 wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?


It's more about what the firms want and less about what SEO wants. From what I understand, firm X tells SEO that they'll only take students from schools X, Y, or Z, and SEO supplies them accordingly.



Yup. It's about the firms. Firms usually aren't asking for Howard students, they're asking for t14 students. They give a list of schools they want students from and seo works from that list

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Mrocky2 » Thu May 04, 2017 6:29 pm

suitsandpotions wrote:This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?


In addition, although many firms recruit at Howard (much better position to be in than other schools) it's still difficult to get BigLaw and still only top students get it. But in the T-14, especially T-6 if you're a minority (or anyone for that matter) with a pulse and not weird in an interview you can get BigLaw, so it's a bit more realistic group of future BigLaw attorneys. (Not saying it's right)

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Postby suitsandpotions » Thu May 04, 2017 6:32 pm

brinicolec wrote:
hammy393 wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?


It's more about what the firms want and less about what SEO wants. From what I understand, firm X tells SEO that they'll only take students from schools X, Y, or Z, and SEO supplies them accordingly.



That makes a lot of sense. This whole time I thought it was the organization choosing to operate that way. Thanks for the explanation!

Yup. It's about the firms. Firms usually aren't asking for Howard students, they're asking for t14 students. They give a list of schools they want students from and seo works from that list

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby suitsandpotions » Thu May 04, 2017 6:36 pm

Mrocky2 wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?


In addition, although many firms recruit at Howard (much better position to be in than other schools) it's still difficult to get BigLaw and still only top students get it. But in the T-14, especially T-6 if you're a minority (or anyone for that matter) with a pulse and not weird in an interview you can get BigLaw, so it's a bit more realistic group of future BigLaw attorneys. (Not saying it's right)


Good point. I guess it's easier to bet on a strong candidates from higher ranked schools.

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Postby lilitiger99 » Thu May 04, 2017 6:55 pm

suitsandpotions wrote:
Mrocky2 wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:This might come off as a silly question since SEO is known for being a big prestige T14 whore but if they genuinely want to help minority students get into BigLaw then why don't they also accept applicants that will be attending Howard Law? I mean big firms recruit top candidates from Howard so wouldn't it make sense for SEO to make an exception to their T14 rule and take a strong Howard candidate?


In addition, although many firms recruit at Howard (much better position to be in than other schools) it's still difficult to get BigLaw and still only top students get it. But in the T-14, especially T-6 if you're a minority (or anyone for that matter) with a pulse and not weird in an interview you can get BigLaw, so it's a bit more realistic group of future BigLaw attorneys. (Not saying it's right)


Good point. I guess it's easier to bet on a strong candidates from higher ranked schools.


The list of seo alum does have Howard on it though. as well as other non t-20 schools. It is rarer, but a strong applicant + strong interview can definitely be chosen over some t13 and even t6 applicants

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Hi-So - ArshavinFan » Fri May 05, 2017 3:19 am

suitsandpotions wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why are tv shows always throwing shade at NYU lol? I remember Blair Waldorf said something similar on Gossip Girl when she was talking about wanting to go to Yale lol


NYU didnt really become a more prestigious university until the early 90s. If you ask people who attended in the 70s and 80s - they often joke about ho NYU was considered a joke school ( it wasnt a joke perse, but it was considered more prestigious to attend a school like Brandeis for example). Keep in mind, Columbia College and Barnard were separate institutions before 1986 (Columbia undergrad being all male until 1983). So the stigma amongst old money New Yorkers is that NYU is nouveau riche, new to the block. And its true. NYU's law school used to be pretty bad, and then it rocketed up, thanks to the trustees ( many among them bankers/financiers). Basically NYU has "bought" their prestige increased rankings - so in NYC - it's still ajoke school. Many attended NYU if they couldnt qualify/afford Ivy Leagues. so tahts the main reason for the stigma. Its going away now - but its there deep down.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/20/us/bu ... wanted=all

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Postby Hi-So - ArshavinFan » Fri May 05, 2017 3:20 am

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Postby Npret » Fri May 05, 2017 6:55 am

Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why are tv shows always throwing shade at NYU lol? I remember Blair Waldorf said something similar on Gossip Girl when she was talking about wanting to go to Yale lol


NYU didnt really become a more prestigious university until the early 90s. If you ask people who attended in the 70s and 80s - they often joke about ho NYU was considered a joke school ( it wasnt a joke perse, but it was considered more prestigious to attend a school like Brandeis for example). Keep in mind, Columbia College and Barnard were separate institutions before 1983 (Columbia undergrad being all male until 1983). So the stigma amongst old money New Yorkers is that NYU is nouveau riche, new to the block. And its true. NYU's law school used to be pretty bad, and then it rocketed up, thanks to the trustees ( many among them bankers/financiers). Basically NYU has "bought" their prestige increased rankings - so in NYC - it's still ajoke school. Many attended NYU if they couldnt qualify/afford Ivy Leagues. so tahts the main reason for the stigma. Its going away now - but its there deep down.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/20/us/bu ... wanted=all

Strongly disagree that in NYC NYU is "still" considerd a joke school. Don't know if it was back in the days of NYC bankruptcy and crime and everyone went to Columbia.

Have not heard of this Brandeis school ever being a place people went.

I wouldn't care about what a tv show says tbh.

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby Hi-So - ArshavinFan » Fri May 05, 2017 8:33 am

Npret wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why are tv shows always throwing shade at NYU lol? I remember Blair Waldorf said something similar on Gossip Girl when she was talking about wanting to go to Yale lol


NYU didnt really become a more prestigious university until the early 90s. If you ask people who attended in the 70s and 80s - they often joke about ho NYU was considered a joke school ( it wasnt a joke perse, but it was considered more prestigious to attend a school like Brandeis for example). Keep in mind, Columbia College and Barnard were separate institutions before 1983 (Columbia undergrad being all male until 1983). So the stigma amongst old money New Yorkers is that NYU is nouveau riche, new to the block. And its true. NYU's law school used to be pretty bad, and then it rocketed up, thanks to the trustees ( many among them bankers/financiers). Basically NYU has "bought" their prestige increased rankings - so in NYC - it's still a lesser school ( to some). Many attended NYU if they couldnt qualify/afford Ivy Leagues. so tahts the main reason for the stigma. Its going away now - but its there deep down.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/20/us/bu ... wanted=all

Strongly disagree that in NYC NYU is "still" considerd a joke school. Don't know if it was back in the days of NYC bankruptcy and crime and everyone went to Columbia.

Have not heard of this Brandeis school ever being a place people went.

I wouldn't care about what a tv show says tbh.


I dont truly care lol - i find it misinformed ( but somewhat funny within the context of the character, and the show!

You're correct - it's not a joke school at all - but the perception of it being a "tier below" isn't completely gone.
I remember the days from my banking and consulting internships where certain NYU ids would introduce their school as "NYU Stern", never just NYU lol!!!!! It would be the craziest thing - of course Stern is one of the bet business school in the world - so it makes sense)

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Re: URM 2016-2017 Cycle Thread

Postby brinicolec » Fri May 05, 2017 2:01 pm

Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
Npret wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:
suitsandpotions wrote:
brinicolec wrote:
Hi-So - ArshavinFan wrote:So Dear White People in Episode 9 - NYU Law is mentioned as a joke law school.

I'm really heated right now. Like seriously heated.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why are tv shows always throwing shade at NYU lol? I remember Blair Waldorf said something similar on Gossip Girl when she was talking about wanting to go to Yale lol


NYU didnt really become a more prestigious university until the early 90s. If you ask people who attended in the 70s and 80s - they often joke about ho NYU was considered a joke school ( it wasnt a joke perse, but it was considered more prestigious to attend a school like Brandeis for example). Keep in mind, Columbia College and Barnard were separate institutions before 1983 (Columbia undergrad being all male until 1983). So the stigma amongst old money New Yorkers is that NYU is nouveau riche, new to the block. And its true. NYU's law school used to be pretty bad, and then it rocketed up, thanks to the trustees ( many among them bankers/financiers). Basically NYU has "bought" their prestige increased rankings - so in NYC - it's still a lesser school ( to some). Many attended NYU if they couldnt qualify/afford Ivy Leagues. so tahts the main reason for the stigma. Its going away now - but its there deep down.

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/20/us/bu ... wanted=all

Strongly disagree that in NYC NYU is "still" considerd a joke school. Don't know if it was back in the days of NYC bankruptcy and crime and everyone went to Columbia.

Have not heard of this Brandeis school ever being a place people went.

I wouldn't care about what a tv show says tbh.


I dont truly care lol - i find it misinformed ( but somewhat funny within the context of the character, and the show!

You're correct - it's not a joke school at all - but the perception of it being a "tier below" isn't completely gone.
I remember the days from my banking and consulting internships where certain NYU ids would introduce their school as "NYU Stern", never just NYU lol!!!!! It would be the craziest thing - of course Stern is one of the bet business school in the world - so it makes sense)


When I was at NYU I had a friend who was in stern and constantly on the verge of an emotional breakdown from being stressed out so I get the need to make a distinction lol.




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