URMs and Seattle University

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SeattleUPOC
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URMs and Seattle University

Postby SeattleUPOC » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:28 pm

All law schools have their problems with race. From what I'm told, SU isn't "that bad" compared to other schools; BUT, SU has a lot of work to do. As a person of color, I want more POC to attend the law school. It is important, however, to let people know that attending SU as a POC will be tough, frustrating, and often times humiliating. I'm writing this to highlight the fact that SU's "commitment" to social justice is nothing more than a marketing scheme, and the administration does not support its students of color. SU tokenizes us (see the website) and expects us to remain silent while professors and students make racist comments during class.

SU has a lot of work to do, and its students of color are doing most of it despite the dean actively attempting to silence us.

http://sulawsocialjustice.tumblr.com

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Re: URMs and Seattle University

Postby asdfdfdfadfas » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:35 pm

SeattleUPOC wrote:All law schools have their problems with race. From what I'm told, SU isn't "that bad" compared to other schools; BUT, SU has a lot of work to do. As a person of color, I want more POC to attend the law school. It is important, however, to let people know that attending SU as a POC will be tough, frustrating, and often times humiliating. I'm writing this to highlight the fact that SU's "commitment" to social justice is nothing more than a marketing scheme, and the administration does not support its students of color. SU tokenizes us (see the website) and expects us to remain silent while professors and students make racist comments during class.

SU has a lot of work to do, and its students of color are doing most of it despite the dean actively attempting to silence us.

http://sulawsocialjustice.tumblr.com


I don't think all law schools have their problems with race, first of all. Secondly, what work are you referencing that SU needs to do? What are your recommending the administration do specifically for students of color?

I think you'd be better off by focusing on your grades and transferring out if they are allowing discriminatory behavior at their school. The best way to stop discriminatory behavior is to vote with your dollars by not attending.

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Re: URMs and Seattle University

Postby jnwa » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:39 pm

asdfdfdfadfas wrote:
SeattleUPOC wrote:All law schools have their problems with race. From what I'm told, SU isn't "that bad" compared to other schools; BUT, SU has a lot of work to do. As a person of color, I want more POC to attend the law school. It is important, however, to let people know that attending SU as a POC will be tough, frustrating, and often times humiliating. I'm writing this to highlight the fact that SU's "commitment" to social justice is nothing more than a marketing scheme, and the administration does not support its students of color. SU tokenizes us (see the website) and expects us to remain silent while professors and students make racist comments during class.

SU has a lot of work to do, and its students of color are doing most of it despite the dean actively attempting to silence us.

http://sulawsocialjustice.tumblr.com


I don't think all law schools have their problems with race, first of all. Secondly, what work are you referencing that SU needs to do? What are your recommending the administration do specifically for students of color?

I think you'd be better off by focusing on your grades and transferring out if they are allowing discriminatory behavior at their school. The best way to stop discriminatory behavior is to vote with your dollars by not attending.


No...just ..no

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Re: URMs and Seattle University

Postby asdfdfdfadfas » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:43 pm

jnwa wrote:
asdfdfdfadfas wrote:
SeattleUPOC wrote:All law schools have their problems with race. From what I'm told, SU isn't "that bad" compared to other schools; BUT, SU has a lot of work to do. As a person of color, I want more POC to attend the law school. It is important, however, to let people know that attending SU as a POC will be tough, frustrating, and often times humiliating. I'm writing this to highlight the fact that SU's "commitment" to social justice is nothing more than a marketing scheme, and the administration does not support its students of color. SU tokenizes us (see the website) and expects us to remain silent while professors and students make racist comments during class.

SU has a lot of work to do, and its students of color are doing most of it despite the dean actively attempting to silence us.

http://sulawsocialjustice.tumblr.com


I don't think all law schools have their problems with race, first of all. Secondly, what work are you referencing that SU needs to do? What are your recommending the administration do specifically for students of color?

I think you'd be better off by focusing on your grades and transferring out if they are allowing discriminatory behavior at their school. The best way to stop discriminatory behavior is to vote with your dollars by not attending.


No...just ..no


Don't provide B.S. commentary. I am being 100% serious. By attending, you are financing these people. Simply transfer out. they won't make as much money which is what they really care about and you won't have to deal with them. It is a win win. Or, you can stand outside and complain all day thinking that human beings who are scumbags are going to change. They aren't, some people suck. That is the way it has always been and that is the way it will always be.

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Re: URMs and Seattle University

Postby jnwa » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:50 pm

asdfdfdfadfas wrote:
Don't provide B.S. commentary. I am being 100% serious. By attending, you are financing these people. Simply transfer out. they won't make as much money which is what they really care about and you won't have to deal with them. Its a win win. Or, you can stand outside and complain all day thinking that human beings who are scumbags are going to change. They aren't, some people suck. Unfortunately, thus is life.


If OP transfers out theyll just replace him/her with another person. Raising awareness about an issue that affects a group of people and may be institutional is much more effective than running away from the school. If OP wants to transfer because they cant handle the school anymore then that is perfectly defensible but to act as if transferring is a more powerful act of protest than raising awareness is ridiculous. Voting with dollars might make sense for issues that you disagree with but dont necessarily hurt anyone, however if the school actively creates an unhealthy environment for URM's then it makes a lot more sense to bring those issues to the forefront.

Scumbags change all the time, sometimes they dont even know they are being scumbags until someone points it out.

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Re: URMs and Seattle University

Postby asdfdfdfadfas » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:10 pm

jnwa wrote:
asdfdfdfadfas wrote:
Don't provide B.S. commentary. I am being 100% serious. By attending, you are financing these people. Simply transfer out. they won't make as much money which is what they really care about and you won't have to deal with them. Its a win win. Or, you can stand outside and complain all day thinking that human beings who are scumbags are going to change. They aren't, some people suck. Unfortunately, thus is life.


If OP transfers out theyll just replace him/her with another person. Raising awareness about an issue that affects a group of people and may be institutional is much more effective than running away from the school. If OP wants to transfer because they cant handle the school anymore then that is perfectly defensible but to act as if transferring is a more powerful act of protest than raising awareness is ridiculous. Voting with dollars might make sense for issues that you disagree with but dont necessarily hurt anyone, however if the school actively creates an unhealthy environment for URM's then it makes a lot more sense to bring those issues to the forefront.

Scumbags change all the time, sometimes they dont even know they are being scumbags until someone points it out.



I should have qualified my response- You can still raise awareness while you transfer out. Those aren't mutually exclusive.

My whole point was just to literally DO something about it, don't just raise awareness/ complain about their behavior, quit financing them and specifically target other students who are considering attending . Immediately transfer out if it is that bad along with every other individual who is supporting the cause. I just have seen a lot of folks champion a cause such as this and they take on a victim mentality, get stuck in it, and have it consume their life. It ends up bringing that person down. I was trying to ensure OP avoided that.




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