URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

(BLS, URM status, non-traditional, GLBT)

You would turn down YSH for...(choose up to 4)

Hamilton @ CLS
43
21%
Ruby @ Chicago
29
14%
AnBryce/RTK @ NYU
26
13%
Levy @ Penn (LOL, no URM in history has ever gotten one)
13
6%
Dillard/Darrow/Full Scholarship @ UVA/Mich/Berk
25
12%
Mordecai/Full Scholly/Hughes/Full Scholly @ Duke/NW/Cornell/GULC
23
11%
Full @ Texas/UCLA/Vandy
10
5%
F* that dude...literally nothing could keep me from YSH. Debt be damned!
37
18%
 
Total votes: 206

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby 180kickflip » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:31 am

I am officially going to Boalt!

Pretty happy with my call, but, after my visit, I will always have a soft spot (and wonder where I went wrong in my Darrow interview lol) for Michigan. Now I'm just trying to figure out housing, health care, parking/commuting, and relocating (epic road trip here we come!).

Does anyone see any glaring oversights with my COL estimate?

Splitting 1380/mo graduate family housing cost (includes utilities, internet, cable, and parking) = 700/mo= 8400/yr
Splitting 400/mo groceries= 2400/yr
1000/yr books
300/mo going out food/drinks/movies/etc. = 3600/yr
1000/yr travel = 3 (planned in advance and budget class) round trip flights to east coast
**Using medi-cal state insurance to waive SHIP student insurance
**All costs covered by savings, so no interest
= about 16k/yr = 48k total estimated COA

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Navrim » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:32 pm

Hey guys,

I wanted some input on a decision I am making. My choice right now is 90k at Michigan vs. 90k at Duke. Do either of these sound like good option as in is it worth it to take on so much debt? I s wanted to work in government after law school but with this amount of debt I fear that I will be forced to vie for big law for a couple of years.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby ert2sk » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:53 pm

Navrim wrote:Hey guys,

I wanted some input on a decision I am making. My choice right now is 90k at Michigan vs. 90k at Duke. Do either of these sound like good option as in is it worth it to take on so much debt? I s wanted to work in government after law school but with this amount of debt I fear that I will be forced to vie for big law for a couple of years.


I'm not sure about Duke, but Michigan's LRAP is fantastic! It makes PI/government careers a definite possibility, even if you're graduating with significant debt. Here's the link https://www.law.umich.edu/financialaid/ ... grams.aspx
in case you want to do more research on it. Depending on how much you make at your PI/government job, Michigan's LRAP could cover your ENTIRE loan payment per month if you make 55k or less. The cap is a salary of 88k, at which point you wouldn't qualify for benefits. But between 55k-88k, your coverage is provided at an income-based sliding scale. And then don't forget that through PSLF, your loans are discharged after ten years if you've worked in a qualifying position during that time. In short, at Michigan at least, there are ways for you to manage your debt if you decide to go the PI route. I'm sure though that Duke would have something similar, as it is another top ranked program.
(I'm also attending Michigan, so maybe I'll see you in the fall!)

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby woc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:03 pm

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby CAJOLER » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:14 pm

Given your interest to stay in Los Angeles -- get UCLA down below 100k and you're in a great spot. If not, try to get Duke to come down a bit. But if you're serious about LA (and California), go to UCLA. What about USC, Berk?
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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby CAJOLER » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:45 pm

Note - just saw that you haven't heard back from financial aid for M. Hmm. Do you have strong ties to LA? What kind of career are you interested in? If Michigan comes in with good scholarship, and you have strong ties to LA, I would say that's a defensible option. But that also depends on what you want to do. Any others have advice?
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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby CAJOLER » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:58 pm

woc wrote:
CAJOLER wrote:Note - just saw that you haven't heard back from financial aid for M. Hmm. Do you have strong ties to LA? What kind of career are you interested in? If Michigan comes in with good scholarship, and you have strong ties to LA, I would say that's a defensible option. But that also depends on what you want to do. Any others have advice?


Um...ties as in contacts? No, most of my contacts are further down south. I'm interested in appellate work & IP law, but again, I'm open-minded. (Sorry these answers aren't so helpful.) I really appreciate the help!


Sorry for your quoting your other posts -- just saw your note not to quote. Ok, given that you don't have ties to LA, yet you want to end up in LA, I would still say UCLA is a fine option, especially if you want to go into IP law. Do you have an offer from USC? If so, show them UCLA's offer and then come back to UCLA with USC's (presumably) increased offer. Profit. Good luck! and congrats on your options!

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby woc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:04 pm

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby jnwa » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:05 pm

woc wrote:
CAJOLER wrote:Given your interest to stay in Los Angeles -- get UCLA down below 100k and you're in a great spot. If not, try to get Duke to come down a bit. But if you're serious about LA (and California), go to UCLA. What about USC, Berk?


USC would be more expensive than UCLA & I didn't apply to Berkeley. Thanks for the input, though. UCLA probably is my best option, but I thought I'd see if anyone could help me justify Michigan. :lol:


I'll be at Michigan and although you dont know me my value to a school is between 250-300k so theres your justification for Mich. :)

On a serious not id think Duke plus ties would be enough to go back to LA as well as have a better shot at clerking and generic biglaw than UCLA if it doesnt work out.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby CAJOLER » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:10 pm

jnwa wrote:
woc wrote:
CAJOLER wrote:Given your interest to stay in Los Angeles -- get UCLA down below 100k and you're in a great spot. If not, try to get Duke to come down a bit. But if you're serious about LA (and California), go to UCLA. What about USC, Berk?


USC would be more expensive than UCLA & I didn't apply to Berkeley. Thanks for the input, though. UCLA probably is my best option, but I thought I'd see if anyone could help me justify Michigan. :lol:


I'll be at Michigan and although you dont know me my value to a school is between 250-300k so theres your justification for Mich. :)

On a serious not id think Duke plus ties would be enough to go back to LA as well as have a better shot at clerking and generic biglaw than UCLA if it doesnt work out.


I would agree with Duke plus ties in LA, but he/she doesn't have ties in LA. Which leads me to favor UCLA especially at the COA.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby beantheshadow » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:22 pm

Anybody apply to ASU this cycle with an LSAT above their 75th? I heard they have been pretty stingy this cycle with money; possibly because of their new downtown building. I will be applying next cycle and a would love to hear other people's results!

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Nolachicken » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:19 pm

beantheshadow wrote:Anybody apply to ASU this cycle with an LSAT above their 75th? I heard they have been pretty stingy this cycle with money; possibly because of their new downtown building. I will be applying next cycle and a would love to hear other people's results!


GPA >75% LSAT=75%

Out of state -$40,000 per year. I was interested in their Indian Studies program.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby beantheshadow » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:18 pm

Nolachicken wrote:
beantheshadow wrote:Anybody apply to ASU this cycle with an LSAT above their 75th? I heard they have been pretty stingy this cycle with money; possibly because of their new downtown building. I will be applying next cycle and a would love to hear other people's results!


GPA >75% LSAT=75%

Out of state -$40,000 per year. I was interested in their Indian Studies program.



Wow, congrats! Are you going to accept it? Did you negotiate up to that?

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Nolachicken » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:49 pm

beantheshadow wrote:
Nolachicken wrote:
beantheshadow wrote:Anybody apply to ASU this cycle with an LSAT above their 75th? I heard they have been pretty stingy this cycle with money; possibly because of their new downtown building. I will be applying next cycle and a would love to hear other people's results!


GPA >75% LSAT=75%

Out of state -$40,000 per year. I was interested in their Indian Studies program.



Wow, congrats! Are you going to accept it? Did you negotiate up to that?


Thanks! I did not accept the offer. It was a really tough choice for me. I loved their program, but I had a couple of similar offers close to home. It was my initial offer, and I did not try to negotiate up.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby PrezRand » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:12 am

Any URMs from TX?

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby alpha kenny body » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:18 pm

I've been missing lately and it's because I've been living life and whatnot, yet I came in here to say I am still being held at HSCC. Y hasn't said anything since January, and I've been accepted everywhere else.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby jlet0314 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:49 am

Is there a 2015-2016 urm in/out/wl thread yet?

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Nlawsing » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:48 am

jlet0314 wrote:Is there a 2015-2016 urm in/out/wl thread yet?


I don't think so , Someone please make one!

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Iam3hunna » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:28 pm

Congrats to all so far. May the force be with you.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby DeanStrangJr » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:11 am

I have an idea of what I want to do, but I'd like a second (and third or fourth) opinion...

Between these two
USC
Michigan - $165k COA

I want BigLaw. LA would be great. Chicago would be okay. Not crazy about NYC.
SO would eventually move to LA, but not Michigan. :(

Am I crazy for leaning towards USC over Michigan?

Also riding waitlists @ Chi, Col, NYU, Duke, UCLA
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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby jnwa » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:54 am

DeanStrangJr wrote:I have an idea of what I want to do, but I'd like a second (and third or fourth) opinion...

Between these two
USC - $135k COA (loans)
Michigan - $165k COA

I want BigLaw. LA would be great. Chicago would be okay. Not crazy about NYC.
SO would eventually move to LA, but not Michigan. :(

Am I crazy for leaning towards USC over Michigan?

Also riding waitlists @ Chi, Col, NYU, Duke, UCLA


1st option is biglaw in CA. Would you rather get BL anywhere else including new York or a non-biglaw job in Cali. If the former id say Mich, latter id say USC.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Budfox55 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:08 am

DeanStrangJr wrote:I have an idea of what I want to do, but I'd like a second (and third or fourth) opinion...

Between these two
USC - $135k COA (loans)
Michigan - $165k COA

I want BigLaw. LA would be great. Chicago would be okay. Not crazy about NYC.
SO would eventually move to LA, but not Michigan. :(

Am I crazy for leaning towards USC over Michigan?

Also riding waitlists @ Chi, Col, NYU, Duke, UCLA


Do you have ties to LA? If yes, then I would for sure pick Michigan as you can leverage your ties to come back. I would only pick USC if you didn't have ties and you were LA biglaw or bust.

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Re: URM 2015-2016 Cycle Thread

Postby Harvette » Tue May 17, 2016 7:48 pm

Any post WL JS1 request here?




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