159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

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jlwx
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159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby jlwx » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:34 pm

I haven't seen a lot of posts with URMs who took the LSAT twice...

I just want to know if the 159 really kills my chances at the top 14. In an ideal world, I'd be admitted to Stanford, but obviously the world is less than ideal. Can people give their $0.02 on where I should apply/where I can reasonably expect acceptance?

I'm black/white and gay
Graduated from a top 30 University
3.38 (I had one not so great semester my freshman year that, if removed, would bring my GPA to 3.5x)
Will have worked full-time for about two years as a Law office assistant at a civil rights law firm before attending LS
Oct 2011- 159/77 percentile
Dec 2013- 170/ 97 Percentile

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August Wilson
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Re: 159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby August Wilson » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:41 pm

Write a gpa addendum explaining upward trend and blanket the top 14. You'll be fine. S is a toss up because they love them some GPAs but I'd say you have a chance. With that 170 you're going to be getting into some very good schools. Congrats, dude.

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Re: 159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby August Wilson » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:41 pm

also get those fee waivers before you send in your apps and save some cash.

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Re: 159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby StillCutty » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:44 pm

Apply everywhere. I'd feel pretty good about a 170 and 3.38 with URM status among T14 schools. You might not make HYS, but you never know and you definitely have a shot. People try to make this shit strictly a numbers game, but I got accepted at schools my numbers should have precluded me from and I don't have some insane "i cured aids" or "i started a tech company that changed the social media game" story. Strong letters of recommendation and a well thought out personal statement really can make a significant difference.

I bet you could write an interesting diversity statement given your racial background as well.

Also, you might consider waiting a year. Your chances at getting into most those schools would be better if this was September or October. This years cycle is weaker than last years, and I predict a similar decline next year. It could be the difference between just missing Stanford this time around and getting in easy this upcoming fall.

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Re: 159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby jlwx » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:22 pm

I have been under the impression that an adendum should only be used when you have a legitimate excuse for the poor performance (sick relative etc.). I just had a really difficult course load that, frankly, I wasn't prepared for.

Also, should I leave the 159 unaddressed? Again, I didn't prepare enough for the test and I took it my junior year of undergrad, which in retrospect was pretty silly.

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Re: 159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby August Wilson » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:36 pm

You can write an addendum to ask the committee to note your upward trend. I mean it's "better" to have something tragic have happened, but you can still write an effective addendum without a tragic event. I'm sure there's some sort of mitigating factor you can come up with. It won't be as strong as other addendums where people are sick or loved ones passed, but you're not looking to excuse past grades you're only asking adcoms to note that after a rough semester (for whatever reason) very early on in your college career you've rebounded to much better grades.

I wouldn't worry about the 159. If the scores were switched (as in you first scored a 170 and then scored a 159), then I'd think about writing an lsat addendum. But going from a 159 to a 170 isn't an easy feat and says volumes about your work ethic alone and at the end of the day law schools are only going to report one number after they accept you and it sure ain't gonna be that 159. :wink:

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Re: 159 (oct '11)/170 (dec '13) 3.38 (biracial Male)

Postby Lacepiece23 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:10 am

Black male with a 170 your good.




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