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ED to Columbia this upcoming cycle?

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:34 pm
by sfxx
My stats:
3.4 GPA
164 LSAT
AA Male
Softs: Nothing significant

Would an ED to Columbia be justified? I figure I have no chance at HYS with my current scores. I perused Law School Numbers for the past few years, and the only AA males with my numbers who've gotten significant T-14 $$$ anywhere seem to have amazing softs or come from underprivileged backgrounds. My number one goal is Big Law. I figure if I pay sticker at Columbia I can PAYE + Big Law to minimize debt?

Can anyone convince me NOT to ED?

Re: ED to Columbia this upcoming cycle?

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:42 pm
by Typhoon24
Don't ED. You have a solid chance at getting in regular decision CLS with those numbers, possibly with money. take a look at this chart of AA's from the past few cycles with your numbers.

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H is not totally out of the picture either. You have a slim shot, but it's still possible.

Re: ED to Columbia this upcoming cycle?

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:54 pm
by JamMasterJ
You'll probably get some money at at least 1 of CCN(P). More than 50K at any of these is a bit better than CLS sticker for biglaw. You shouldn't ED

Re: ED to Columbia this upcoming cycle?

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:35 pm
by Nova
You should keep your options open and RD everywhere.

Also, retake in October.

Re: ED to Columbia this upcoming cycle?

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:01 pm
by elterrible78
Copied from a similar thread:

Based on my analysis of LSN data (just for URM applicants to the top-14, so data is kind of limited...take this for what it's worth).

In terms of being admitted to a school rather than rejected (leaving out waitlisted candidates whose ultimate fate is not known), controlling for LSAT score, GPA, gender, and non-trad status (as well as ED and earlier applications). The number for ED is the increase in likelihood of being accepted applying ED vs. RD. The number for applying earlier is the increase in the likelihood of being accepted for each earlier month you apply (Sep vs. Oct, Oct vs. Nov, etc.):

Columbia: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - no impact

Chicago: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - 99%

NYU: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - 32%

Penn: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - 110%

Virginia: ED - 740% (yep, that is seven hundred and forty percent)
Applying earlier - 24%

Michigan: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - 46%

Duke: ED - no impact (it's close to statistical significance, but not close enough)
Applying earlier - no impact

Northwestern: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - 45%

Georgetown: ED - no impact
Applying earlier - no impact

Re: ED to Columbia this upcoming cycle?

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:02 pm
by John_rizzy_rawls
If you retake in October and score above 167 you're looking at HYS or big $ at T14s.

Either way, don't ED.