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Retake 170?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:53 pm
by Hapalawyer
I am a part AA with a 170/3.6 hoping to do PI work. I've read on this forum that 170/3.5+ AA/Part AA is a shoo-in everywhere but Yale, is this true? Would retaking and getting a 171 or a 172 change things drastically?

Thanks

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:59 pm
by A-Modest-Proposal
Nope you are solid. The chance of scoring higher is smaller than the chance of scoring lower (which is a negative). Sit on that score and enjoy your cycle.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:44 am
by PRgradBYU
Hapalawyer wrote:Would retaking and getting a 171 or a 172 change things drastically?
No sir. Enjoy HYS.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:22 am
by thewaves
hapa power. GL

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:51 am
by John_rizzy_rawls
Hapalawyer wrote:I am a part AA with a 170/3.6 hoping to do PI work. I've read on this forum that 170/3.5+ AA/Part AA is a shoo-in everywhere but Yale, is this true? Would retaking and getting a 171 or a 172 change things drastically?

Thanks
Some bad advice ITT.

We have just about the exact same numbers/URM (see profile) and I'm retaking in October.

Our GPAs are a smidge low so 170 is good but not mortal lock.

No reason now to retake if you can notch up a couple points.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:44 am
by Hapalawyer
Thanks for all the comments
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Hapalawyer wrote:I am a part AA with a 170/3.6 hoping to do PI work. I've read on this forum that 170/3.5+ AA/Part AA is a shoo-in everywhere but Yale, is this true? Would retaking and getting a 171 or a 172 change things drastically?

Thanks
Some bad advice ITT.

We have just about the exact same numbers/URM (see profile) and I'm retaking in October.

Our GPAs are a smidge low so 170 is good but not mortal lock.

No reason now to retake if you can notch up a couple points.
What score would you consider to be a lock?

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:41 am
by Xixak
I don't see how a 3.6 170 as an AA makes you a LOCK for Harvard.

Can I see stats on that? Seems like you'd need closer to a 175 with that GPA, even with AA boost.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:43 am
by Xixak
I tried searching on MyLSN and I can't find any AAs with those stats in the last 5 years. If I go back to include every year since 03-04... not a single one has ever been rejected from any school.

So maybe I'm wrong lol.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:30 pm
by steven21
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Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:54 pm
by PRgradBYU
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Hapalawyer wrote:I am a part AA with a 170/3.6 hoping to do PI work. I've read on this forum that 170/3.5+ AA/Part AA is a shoo-in everywhere but Yale, is this true? Would retaking and getting a 171 or a 172 change things drastically?

Thanks
Some bad advice ITT.

We have just about the exact same numbers/URM (see profile) and I'm retaking in October.

Our GPAs are a smidge low so 170 is good but not mortal lock.

No reason now to retake if you can notch up a couple points.
OP asked if retaking and getting a 171 or a 172 would change his cycle drastically, and the answer to that is "no." He would have a stellar cycle either way (as would you).

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:56 pm
by steven21
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Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:18 pm
by Xixak
steven21 wrote:i think those numbers posted pretty much ended the discussion and gave him and everyone else the information needed
Yeah great post.

So it seems like 170/3.5 is a lock for AAs at Harvard.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:51 pm
by John_rizzy_rawls
The new myLSN won't allow for specificity of option selection. Weird. Yeah I guess you're good with the 170 but I personally always advocating higher if you think you can do better.

ETA: I was basing all my calculations off of the old myLSN that encompassed all URMs. Under that, 172+/3.5+ was the mortal lock for Harvard but that's not the case for AAs.

170+/3.4+ has a 100% admit rate at Harvard for AAs -

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So yeah, you're good to go.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:07 pm
by Xixak
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:The new myLSN won't allow for specificity of option selection. Weird. Yeah I guess you're good with the 170 but I personally always advocating higher if you think you can do better.

ETA: I was basing all my calculations off of the old myLSN that encompassed all URMs. Under that, 172+/3.5+ was the mortal lock for Harvard but that's not the case for AAs.

170+/3.4+ has a 100% admit rate at Harvard for AAs -


So yeah, you're good to go.
Did all of them have to pay sticker? Or did they just not report their financial awards?

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:10 pm
by MoMettaMonk
HYS don't give merit aid, which is what people report on MyLSN.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:10 pm
by John_rizzy_rawls
HYS don't give merit aid, only need-based.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:29 pm
by Xixak
Oh ok, so with Harvard you don't know how much $$$ you're getting until you have handed in your financial info?

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:30 pm
by John_rizzy_rawls
Xixak wrote:Oh ok, so with Harvard you don't know how much $$$ you're getting until you have handed in your financial info?
Yep. Except you're not getting in because you're international.

ETA: Completely messing with you, please don't flip out and make another thread.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:25 am
by Xixak
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Xixak wrote:Oh ok, so with Harvard you don't know how much $$$ you're getting until you have handed in your financial info?
Yep. Except you're not getting in because you're international.

ETA: Completely messing with you, please don't flip out and make another thread.
Lol we've had a lot of conversations, I know you're just joking.

Re: Retake 170?

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:49 am
by Hapalawyer
Thanks everyone for the input! I think I'll be sticking with my 170 and hope for the best. Also, does anyone know what URMs/Part URMs need for named scholarships? (Ex: Levy, Mordecai, Hamilton) Do many URMs receive these scholarships?