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AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:40 pm
by flat-fifth
I just had a free consultation with a professional law school admissions counselor. What I was told on the phone doesn't quite match with the accounts that I've seen on this forum and LSN.
Based on threads I've read, it's been my belief that an AA male with a 159/3.5 has a decent shot at top law school. However, according to this expert, that may not be so due to the quality/reputation of undergrad.
I attend a CSU, double major, and I am nontraditional...
I've seen posts about AA males getting into amazing schools with these numbers. Who should I believe?
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:43 pm
by kferden
I'd be more apt to believe people/statistics that have no interest in trying to sway you into giving them money.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:51 pm
by Br3v
http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com
Depending on how long you studied I would probably retake though.
Whatever you do, don't pay a "professional consultant" or whatever.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:52 pm
by Nova
Believe TLS. You should also definitely retake.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:55 pm
by John_rizzy_rawls
Believe statistics. You have a decent shot from UT-Austin, on down.
But you should absolutely retake. A 165+ makes you a lock at the T14.
http://myLSN.info/bufd83_1-14.jpg
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:03 pm
by sparty99
I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:04 pm
by Br3v
sparty99 wrote:I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
I get you are trying to help but this is of limited usefullness. Are you already in law school?
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:09 pm
by JamMasterJ
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:Believe statistics. You have a decent shot from UT-Austin, on down.
But you should absolutely retake. A 165+ makes you a lock at the T14.
http://myLSN.info/bufd83_1-14.jpg
this. I know of someone with like a 3.2 and 166 who got into NYU with $$, and may have actually gotten into H
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:10 pm
by sparty99
Br3v wrote:sparty99 wrote:I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
I get you are trying to help but this is of limited usefullness. Are you already in law school?
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:12 pm
by Br3v
sparty99 wrote:Br3v wrote:sparty99 wrote:I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
I get you are trying to help but this is of limited usefullness. Are you already in law school?
Bitch, I didn't ask for your opinion.
Cool. Well so that future people reading this post don't make an equally bad decision, I wouldn't recommend going to law school with an LSAT below 150 unless you have maxed out on retake options and were lucky enough to attend a regional powerhouse school cheaply.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:14 pm
by JamMasterJ
sparty99 wrote:Br3v wrote:sparty99 wrote:I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
I get you are trying to help but this is of limited usefullness. Are you already in law school?
Bitch, I didn't ask for your opinion.
IBTbanhammer
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:17 pm
by sparty99
Br3v wrote:sparty99 wrote:Br3v wrote:sparty99 wrote:I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
I get you are trying to help but this is of limited usefullness. Are you already in law school?
Bitch, I didn't ask for your opinion.
Cool. Well so that future people reading this post don't make an equally bad decision, I wouldn't recommend going to law school with an LSAT below 150 unless you have maxed out on retake options and were lucky enough to attend a regional powerhouse school cheaply.
Who said my decision was bad? No one.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:24 am
by romothesavior
You should strongly consider retaking the LSAT. Just a few more points would make you very competitive for the T14.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:43 pm
by PRgradBYU
romothesavior wrote:You should strongly consider retaking the LSAT. Just a few more points would make you very competitive for the T14.
This. The sky is the limit for AAs with a 3.5+ / 165+. Retaking could easily get you into HYS, OP.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:45 pm
by KD35
It seems like the problem is what you consider a "top law school." You certainly won't get in to the best of the best, but where is your cutoff of a top school?
Edit: Retake is the best option.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:12 pm
by Lacepiece23
Retake is the best option i regret not doing it, but with that said I did get cornell w/ money at a 3.4 158 so there's that. AA male as well. k-jd.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:59 pm
by flat-fifth
KD35 wrote:It seems like the problem is what you consider a "top law school." You certainly won't get in to the best of the best, but where is your cutoff of a top school?
Edit: Retake is the best option.
I consider T25 to be top schools for AA males, but I've seen quite a few do well from lower schools.
Lacepiece23 wrote:Retake is the best option i regret not doing it, but with that said I did get cornell w/ money at a 3.4 158 so there's that. AA male as well. k-jd.
If I got Cornell, I wouldn't regret one.damn.thing... ever.
Thanks to everyone for the input. I really appreciate TLS. I am retaking, but not PT'ing much better.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:12 pm
by BlakcMajikc
flat-fifth wrote:KD35 wrote:It seems like the problem is what you consider a "top law school." You certainly won't get in to the best of the best, but where is your cutoff of a top school?
Edit: Retake is the best option.
I consider T25 to be top schools for AA males, but I've seen quite a few do well from lower schools.
Lacepiece23 wrote:Retake is the best option i regret not doing it, but with that said I did get cornell w/ money at a 3.4 158 so there's that. AA male as well. k-jd.
If I got Cornell, I wouldn't regret one.damn.thing... ever.
Thanks to everyone for the input. I really appreciate TLS. I am retaking, but not PT'ing much better.
Then head over to the LSAT prep threads on TLS and try some different methods. I took a class and had a 9pt jump, but there are tons of great approaches. The LSAT is a test of preparation.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:32 pm
by flat-fifth
http://californiabar.globl.org/report.p ... &li=20&g=2
According to this state bar data, there does appear to be a proclivity, if not an outright preference, for certain undergrads in my state. Are law schools simply receiving more apps from certain schools?
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:15 pm
by twenty
Who said my decision was bad? No one.
Your decision was bad.
EDIT FOR INCREASED HELPFULNESS>
If you'd retaken the LSAT, you'd be going to a school with significantly better job prospects. (:
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:00 pm
by Lacepiece23
flat-fifth wrote:KD35 wrote:It seems like the problem is what you consider a "top law school." You certainly won't get in to the best of the best, but where is your cutoff of a top school?
Edit: Retake is the best option.
I consider T25 to be top schools for AA males, but I've seen quite a few do well from lower schools.
Lacepiece23 wrote:Retake is the best option i regret not doing it, but with that said I did get cornell w/ money at a 3.4 158 so there's that. AA male as well. k-jd.
If I got Cornell, I wouldn't regret one.damn.thing... ever.
Thanks to everyone for the input. I really appreciate TLS. I am retaking, but not PT'ing much better.
You say that now, but realistically nothing is ever enough. Before i started prepping for the lsat all I wanted was my local T2. Started prepping reading TLS all I wanted was a t14. After first semester all i wanted was to be above median. After second semester all i want is a chance to transfer to HYS. You get the point. I could have waited a year done much better on the lsat, and got a better school. However, I rushed it and am at a great school that I'm happy with, but I still think what if. Would Harvard open up politics? So theres where the regret lies. Def don't leave points on the lsat table if you are capable of better.
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:50 am
by mr.hands
sparty99 wrote:Br3v wrote:sparty99 wrote:I'm an AA and got into a top 50 legal program with $$$ with a LSAT below a 150.
I get you are trying to help but this is of limited usefullness. Are you already in law school?
Who said my decision was bad? No one.
Me. I'm saying your decision was bad
EDIT: scratch that. Your decision was "terrible"
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:44 pm
by flat-fifth
Cancelled my test tomorrow. I decided to take a prep course for October. After all, I'm already an old fart and this is the rest of my life we're talking about...
Re: AA male - Who should I believe?
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:48 pm
by Nova
Probably a good move if you were not ready
Def hang out with these folks
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=203636
Good luck!
